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To: Libloather
Reasons #8 - #12 are all pretty much the same thing. The House controls the timeline, the agenda, and denies ending this farce in the Senate.

8.By holding the articles, Pelosi could dictate when a Senate trial could begin. After all, the Senate is pretty much bound to go through the motions of a trial at least. Perhaps Pelosi could send the articles in the early fall – right before the presidential election.

9.Pelosi has known how to get under Trump’s skin. Consider how Trump talked about how he wandered around alone at the White House last Christmas during the government shutdown. The president said just the other day he wanted a speedy trial. By holding onto the articles, Pelosi could deny the president his most prominent wish – and essentially rent space in Trump’s head. The president thought this would all be done by mid-January. Not now.

10.Republicans may soon start to demand that the speaker send over the articles post-haste. Republicans repeatedly have talked about how unfair the House impeachment process was to the president. But, by holding the articles, Pelosi also could goad Republicans into what some saw as an overzealous defense of Trump.

11.By stalling the articles in perpetuity, Pelosi could block the president from his chief wish: exoneration by the Senate. Holding the articles could trick Trump into a misstep and thwart him from saying the Senate rebuked what many Republicans called an overreach by the House.

12.By keeping the articles in the House, Pelosi would maintain control, instead of Trump. McConnell wouldn’t have control either. With the articles of impeachment in limbo, everyone else would be off balance – except Pelosi.

With Pelosi holding Impeachment over the President like a Sword of Damocles, Barr cannot declassify the FISA and release it's impact. FISA release would indicate that Obama, Hillary, and the Deep State all committed numerous crimes.

The Constitution says NOTHING about "sending the articles over." The House already impeached the President. Per the Constitution, the ball is now in the Senate's court. McConnell should have stated that fact on December 18th, and set a date for the trial in the Senate already. It would have robbed Pelosi of her stall tactic.

16 posted on 12/26/2019 3:12:16 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
With Pelosi holding Impeachment over the President like a Sword of Damocles, Barr cannot declassify the FISA and release it's impact.

Why not? In fact, I think once it's ready, Trump will tell Barr to do exactly that.

The Constitution says NOTHING about "sending the articles over." The House already impeached the President. Per the Constitution, the ball is now in the Senate's court. McConnell should have stated that fact on December 18th, and set a date for the trial in the Senate already. It would have robbed Pelosi of her stall tactic.

Turtle can still do that. Anytime he wants to.

24 posted on 12/26/2019 4:05:32 AM PST by sauropod (Hold onto that impeachment for a while. It'll get better with age, just like Jennifer Rubin has.)
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To: SkyPilot

Can’t the Senate just start the trial with what it has and immediately after have the vote, with the preamble, “We will vote on it, and then we’ll read the articles of impeachment (whenever they arrive)”?

‘Sound familiar?


30 posted on 12/26/2019 5:06:22 AM PST by Repent and Believe (...unless you shall do penance, you shall all likewise perish. - Jesus (Luke 13:3))
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To: SkyPilot
The Constitution says NOTHING about "sending the articles over." The House already impeached the President. Per the Constitution, the ball is now in the Senate's court. McConnell should have stated that fact on December 18th, and set a date for the trial in the Senate already. It would have robbed Pelosi of her stall tactic.

My hope is McConnell is giving the speaker a prudent amount of time to "officially" send the garbage articles over to him. After that, maybe 3 days after they come back from vacation, he will set a quick future date for the senate trial ignoring the demented old hag speaker and her silly games.

Maybe she will be called upon to present their case in person since she feels it was worth all the money and time to pursue it. Treat her like a perp and not a speaker since that's what she's acting like by obstructing justice.

33 posted on 12/26/2019 5:51:08 AM PST by Boomer ('Democrat' is now synonymous with 'corrupt')
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To: SkyPilot

The Constitution says NOTHING about “sending the articles over.” The House already impeached the President. Per the Constitution, the ball is now in the Senate’s court. McConnell should have stated that fact on December 18th, and set a date for the trial in the Senate already. It would have robbed Pelosi of her stall tactic.

There are basically 2 arguments:

1. No impeachment until sent over to the Senate.

2. Impeachment is done, time for the Senate to act, no “send over” is needed.

I think the evidence is on #2. Because of what you said. The Constitution says nothing about “sending”.


43 posted on 12/26/2019 12:39:14 PM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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