Obstruction of Congress, anyone?
They’re breaking the rules???
I’m stunned.
Totally agree with Levin. How much time is there in “timely”?
In parliamentary procedure, you have to pass a measure out or it dies. Here the House failed to pass it out—the “articles” are null.
Someone said in FR a few days back that an impeachment cannot be appealed to the Supreme Court because of co-equal branches of government, I think was the reason.
So, if Mark Levin is right, what is the path for redress? remedy?
I don’t think Mitch is going to take that advice.
This scam is already backfiring on Pelosi, and I suspect he is going to allow it to continue doing so for as long as she is stupid enough to continue.
Impeached.
Doesn’t matter if you, personally, are on the left or on the right.
Doesn’t matter if you think this is Right or Wrong. It’s a Fact.
He’s Impeached. Done Deal. Over. Finito. (Roll credits & closing music.)
Now, this morning, word comes that Her Nanciness won’t send the bill of
impeachment to the Senate until and unless there are bulletproof guarantees
and promises and certifications that the Senate trial will be fair, unbiased,
and proper and thorough. (As she defines it.)
(Now, what follows may be patently insane, but what the hell? Why not?)
Craig Livingstone.
Remember who Craig Livingstone is? (If not, don’t worry; I’ll refresh
you in a moment.)
A basic management principle I learned a thousand years ago says that
when somebody does NOT do something they have the capabiity to do,
and that they should do, and they don’t do it when instructed to — there’s
always a Reason. The manager’s job is then to discover the Reason, and to
correct whatever has caused the stall..
(Thank you, Captain Obvious...)
Well, “obvious” doesn’t mean wrong. That’s why we call it obvious.
Nancy hasn’t sent the bill on to the Senate. Why not? What WAS The
Heated Rush up to this point — and NOW, a sudden halt and demand for
conditions that she knows won’t be forthcoming.
Ok. Here’s Crazy: She (..and the Democrats) don’t WANT a Senate trial
Conviction, followed by a Removal From Office.. (These two things are decided
and voted upon separately. It takes both to remove Trump.)
Why the Hell not !? (...after all this bloviation.)
Several possibilities suggest themselves.
First, most Americans don’t really realize a Senate Trial and Conviction are
necessary. Trump —> IS <— now Officially Impeached! He’s completely
impeached. That part is done.
Democrats can now beat the tub during the next eleven months to the tune that
Trump is now Fully Impeached and Disgraced!
...and many to most of the low-info voters will accept it. They don’t NEED
an actual conviction to have the issue for the coming campaign. It becomes a
Big Stick they can beat him with mercilessly and endlessly. It WILL swing
probably quite a few fence sitter votes. Sad, but true.
Having a Trail, and a Conviction, and a Removal aren’t really necessary, or
maybe even desired. Since it seems unlikely to go that way, the Democrats are
better off —stronger — with the Issue, and a real finalization of the process
would actually make it less powerful.
Ok. Hard to do. Lots of cats to heard. But only a few are the Movers
and Shakers and Rainmakers — maybe twenty or thirty people in super
key positions need to be “convinced” to use all their powers of office to
force the current outcome. Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, principally, and a few
more less visible, and a lot of bit-part players.
Ok. How to force, “bully,” or blackmail these key folks to do the needed
actions?
The process so far has been so driven, so intense, so urgent, so one-sided,
so arbitrary, and so summarily dominated and rushed — there must be a
Reason for this.
...and now it comes to a Full Stop and Pause for unfulfillable demands to be fulfilled.
Craig Livingstone is The Guy who very early in the Clinton administration,
scored all those FBI files under a very thin excuse at the time. They first
admitted to 500 files. Later, they admitted to a few thousand, and even
later admitted to many thousands of FBI files filled with unsubstantiated
dirt and some truths — but chock full of excellent blackmail grist. Crap
that if publicized and requiring defense and explanation would end anybody’s
political career. Crap on almost everybody who might one day need to be
leveraged. FBI, they say, doesn’t refine the crap contents of these files until
it becomes useful to qualify whatever truths may be, and remove the dross.
It all lies in there as Mixed Raw Stuff till the investment of filtration is needed.
The Clintons made a Big Show of returning all the files — dozens of banker’s boxes were shown in the media being “returned” to the steps of the FBI.
...sure. Like Xerox machines didn’t exist, eh?
Remember how badly Hillary took the election night surprise defeat?
Revenge?
For those of us who have ever handled classified materials, it has been a wonder to see how Hillary suffered no consequences from the mishandling of the materials she controlled. We’d have been making small rocks from
big rocks at the Leavenworth Greybar Hotel had we done any of those
things.
I always wondered why Comey put out such a bulletproof case in his famous Hillary exoneration speech - only to end it with the “no competent D.A. would ever bring a case” finale. He probably just wanted to see his children grow up.
I believe that after the convention is deadlocked among the surviving leftist radicals, Hillary will parachute in and Save The Party. Already, she is floating the concept of, “I already beat him once...”
I believed way back when that she would win. Maybe this disaster was only delayed for a while.
I believe now, as I did then, that she will be President Of The United States one day.
I think only severe backlash can prevent that. The “Cellphone Generation” seems to be largely statistically in Hillary’s camp.
They don’t really want the trial until October. Meanwhile they can screech “Illegal Impeached President” until then.
Until the articles of impeachment arrive in the Senate, the president hasn't been impeached.
For example, a person isn't indicted until a prosecutor brings an indictment to court. Just like a president isn't impeached, until the House sends the articles of impeachment to the Senate.
Schedule the impeachment trial for January 2025.
It was exceptional to hear and also learn during ‘the later half’ of McConnell’s speech on the floor today as he explained the purpose of the Senate as a Protectorate for the country’s institutions and the people from an out of control/unhinged/enraged House. I throughly enjoyed his presentation at that juncture. The Senate knows what they have to do, and the d-rats know they will do just that.
BTTT
Who holds the House accountable?
Pelosi sounds like she wants to impeach McConnell. Maybe the House Democrats should impeach everyone they don’t agree with, realizing their dream of a Democrat utopian dictatorship.
He should not do so unilaterally, he should have a senate vote, so it is the SENATE taking the action.
Meanwhile, imagine if republicans were in charge of the house, but with a narrow majority, and the democrats had gotten a half-dozen republicans and passed the impeachment articles.
Then suppose the republican majority leader said “I’m not going to send these to the senate”.
Would a SINGLE media outlet praise him, or would there be calls for his removal for illegally blocking a legally valid action of the house?
What power does Pelosi have to, without a vote of the house, simply decide not to send article of impeachment?
Meanwhile, I agree that if they are not transmitted within a reasonable period of time, the senate should vote to dismiss the indictment, just a a judge would throw out an indictment if the prosecutor failed to bring it to court within the statutory time limits.
A fair trial hasn't yet ocured.
The whole matter should be referred to the Supreme Court,
but that would only delay the matter further
before being thrown out as 'UnConstitutional'.
Whoever approved third-hand hearsay as credible legal evidence
in this kabuki operation should be removed, and any legal credentials cancelled for life .
McConnell has already suggested using the same Senate rules that Clinton was impeached under.
That’s not acceptable to the dems. They want to tilt the rules to unfair in their favor.
No one should have warned her on this. It should have simply gone to the Senate and then let the Senate make the statement and throw it out. Done.
This mess will be dismissed by the Senate as soon as it’s received and Nancy needs impeachment to go on forever to appease her radical base.... She’ll never send it to the senate. The Republicans should play hardball... No more legislation until the articles are turned over to the senate for dismissal.