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To: NorseViking

I fail to see any US interest underpinning this dumb move.


7 posted on 12/17/2019 11:49:09 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Follow the money. It is not about European security since everyone in Europe except Ukraine and Poland wants the pipeline.


8 posted on 12/17/2019 11:51:12 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Mariner

Logically, we are spending a lot of money on NATO defense vs Russia, while this brings Russian gas into Germany and adds to their future energy vulnerability

So yeah, we have skin in the game


11 posted on 12/17/2019 11:58:55 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Mariner; Sacajaweau; NorseViking

I don’t really understand this move as a “security related” issue (at least from reading the article)

Is this as simple as the Left trying to keep painting Russia as an enemy to somehow bolster their hysterical slanderous case against Trump in the public eye?

I have no love lost for Russia. I think as a country, they still wish ill on us for breaking up the Soviet Union. I think they are corrupt, I think they are monkeying around in our internal politics, but hell, who isn’t?

But if our contention is that the Europeans should buy gas from the USA instead of Russia simply because we don’t want them to have more clout, then I don’t agree with that. I am fully on board with sanctions against Iran and every sanction we have laid on Cuba, and I am all in on tariffs on Red China, but...I can’t see any reason why we should be doing this.

I am not all that concerned with people who dislike us possibly disliking us even more for meddling, but I would rather have a good reason for it than what I read in that article.

Can someone explain this in terms of national security, which is the bin it seems to have been placed in?


13 posted on 12/17/2019 12:02:53 PM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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