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Flynn judge crushes hopes for tossing guilty plea, says ex-national security adviser waived constitutional rights
Fox News ^ | December 16 2019 | Gregg Re

Posted on 12/16/2019 11:22:42 PM PST by knighthawk

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To: Alberta's Child

As the judge explained in his decision, the delay was a normal function of allowing Flynn to demonstrate his cooperation with the government.


21 posted on 12/17/2019 1:41:48 AM PST by Gratia
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To: Gratia

And the government ended up prosecuting Flynn’s associate without Flynn’s testimony anyway. The whole thing was a farce.


22 posted on 12/17/2019 1:48:42 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: knighthawk

Just another example of how it isn’t the spirit of the law, and truth, that matter. It’s how the ‘letter of the law’ can be used to manipulate the outcome wanted.


23 posted on 12/17/2019 1:56:56 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: knighthawk
Let's see, the DOJ prosecutors in this case that are persecuting Flynn work for who? Hmmmmm……..that's a poser.


24 posted on 12/17/2019 2:20:53 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: kiryandil
You have to remember that Sullivan is a "political" - a Rapin Bill judge.

Correct. Whomever was spreading this rumor that this judge was "fiercely independent" was smoking Mary Jane.


25 posted on 12/17/2019 2:25:27 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Alberta's Child

>> but was adamant that he was guilty as charged.

The scumbags were going after his family.


26 posted on 12/17/2019 2:32:07 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: knighthawk

Trump Pardon.....do it.


27 posted on 12/17/2019 2:47:26 AM PST by cranked
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To: knighthawk

He came from obama


28 posted on 12/17/2019 2:49:00 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: Gratia

You have confused “inalienable” with “unalienable.”

The Constitution speaks of “unalienable” rights.

Unalienable rights are inherent in every man, granted by the Creator.

They cannot be surrendered except under lawful punishment.

Flynn was coerced, by threat of a prison sentence, to surrender his right to appeal and to introduce new evidence.

No American can surrender his right to due process and a fair trial.


29 posted on 12/17/2019 3:08:29 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: knighthawk

I would think that waiver would be null and void due to the fact that it was gained by lying! It seems like the FBI can do anything with impunity as long as they believe they are right about whatever they do. God if that was the case shooting Killery would be a given for many people!


30 posted on 12/17/2019 3:21:24 AM PST by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: zeestephen

+.


31 posted on 12/17/2019 3:23:17 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: knighthawk
A friend of mine had a conviction thrown out by the Mich Supreme Court due to the judge not allowing exculpatory evidence at his trial.

So even tho he was still found guilty at his retrial, he got a lesser sentence than what the original conviction gave him.

32 posted on 12/17/2019 3:28:25 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Never take a centipede shopping for shoes)
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This is something I don’t get. If his son was guilty, we shouldn’t be sympathetic for a family member’s machinations to try to protect that family member. If his son was not guilty, that still should not be a rationalization for a family member’s legal decisions.

Now, all the bad stuff the Deep State did to Flynn? That of course should be exposed and prosecuted. Should have been long before now if Trump hadn’t put his corrupt SIL in charge of staffing his admin back in the transition.

But if Flynn and his family were also involved in bad stuff, they need to take the hit for that too.


33 posted on 12/17/2019 3:34:47 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Hot Tabasco

That exactly should be the cause for getting these particular Flynn charges tossed. If he’s deep into his own corruption otherwise that he hasn’t been charged for yet, however, then he should still have that exposure.


34 posted on 12/17/2019 3:36:18 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: knighthawk

The way a General gets to be a General these days is by being a disgusting politician. The days of generals like Patton are over.


35 posted on 12/17/2019 4:02:30 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Was that when the prosecution - the bastard Weissman - was threatening Flynn’s son? The prosecutors are the ones who should be sentenced - they framed him and then threatened his family if he didn’t agree to the framing.


36 posted on 12/17/2019 4:04:28 AM PST by Aria
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To: Gratia

Are you a lawyer? If you are then you know more than I do about this sort of thing.


37 posted on 12/17/2019 4:11:37 AM PST by Aria
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To: Gene Eric

I’ve seen references to that a number of times, but no actual evidence or information about it from Flynn himself.


38 posted on 12/17/2019 4:23:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Reno89519

I am convinced that it was the charge related to Turkey where the prosecutors had all the evidence. Virtually nothing is said about that one little charge at the end of the 4-count indictment.

Moreover, according to my court friend Zen Master, once you plead, it’s damn near impossible to get a “do over.” Judges view that as trying to game the system saying, “ok, I’ll take the FG” then later saying, “No, let me try for the TD.”


39 posted on 12/17/2019 5:01:33 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: kiryandil

That may be, but my law/court guys say once you plead out, it’s extremely rare that any judge lets you go back for a do-over.


40 posted on 12/17/2019 5:02:16 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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