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To: karpov

There is a great disconnect in this that the morons in the media either can’t pick up or won’t pick up.

Dan Bongino nails it.

If you really want to understand what happened in FISAGate and SPYGate, you need to listen to Dan Bongino.

Dan nails it with a timeline on the evidence. He shows why Horowitz didn’t get the picture and why Durham has the bigger picture. Horowitz could not have known what Durham knows.

The test messages concerning George Papadopoulos and Alexander Downer and the meeting with Mifsud, and all of that, AND the text messages between Strzok and Lisa Page were all DATED in early MAY 2016.

Horowitz only reviewed emails and messages after May 31, 2016.

Horowitz did not see the bias but Durham did.

So Horowitz is off the hook but my question for him is why did he allow himself to only see evidence after May 31, 2016?

The answer is related to the FISA events kick off in late June 2016.

Still, Horowitz could have gone much further back unless there is some sort of regulation that prohibits him from doing so. I don’t believe there is. So it’s still an open question.

But Bongino fills in the information gap with the following connection of facts.

Bad actors in the DOJ and FBI were ignoring the Papadopoulos attempted entrapment (recall they tried to frame him by planting $10,000 on him that would be discovered undeclared when he returned from Europe and went through US Customs). They were thinking to get Russian collusion evidence on Papadopoulos and somehow tie it to Carter Page because Papadop and Page both worked for the Trump Campaign. So these Deep state aholes ignored and left the Papadopoulos angle and they turned to pushing the Steele Dossier as the document they needed for FISA. But the Steele Dossier was becoming problematic so they went back to the Papadopoulos case as an ‘insurance’ policy and said this allowed FISA to oissue a warrant on Page because whatever.

These people are stupid. Note that it was recently revealed Stephen Halper is a meth addict. Can you say ‘controlled asset’?

Horowitz never saw what was happening behind the scenes before June 2016. He didn’t see anything related to Papadopoulos or Strzok or any of that. But in my view he could have if he had gone back to audit a little further. He needs to be asked what limited him to looking only at evidence dated after May 31, 2016.


6 posted on 12/14/2019 5:46:28 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

I actually like what Horowitz did - his team did a pretty meticulous examination of the FISA application and the Steele dossier (both it’s sources and it’s use by the FBI). The Horowitz report thoroughly destroys huge portions of the FBI/MSM story-line - and it doesn’t leave much, if any, wiggle room for the perps.


16 posted on 12/14/2019 7:56:23 AM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: Hostage

The anti-Trump conspirators know how IG investigations work. They structure their operations to exploit the gaps and the literal-minded, small-picture nonsense the IG’s focus upon. But willful blindness is the only explanation for pretending to evaluate the “predicate” without starting at the beginning (i.e., Trump starting to run).

To balance for ignoring the beginning, Horowitz stopped short of evaluating the RESULTS. He has stated that he did not review anything but Russia-related material. So was non-Russia spying the bulk of it? What was done with it? Who was it reported to? Was the “two hop rule” in play or not? Who was surveilled that way? It’s impossible to conclude that the FISA spying was political if you fail to analyze everything collected. Horowitz investigated the hot dog and ignored the bun.


20 posted on 12/14/2019 8:56:23 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Hostage

messages concerning Papadopoulos and Alexander Downer... the meeting with Mifsud, ...the text messages between Strzok and Page were all DATED in early MAY 2016...

Papadopoulos told Greg Jarrod that he started getting feelers when he was still with the Ben Carson campaign. He suspects several GOP candidates were initially targeted.


25 posted on 12/14/2019 11:22:14 AM PST by Ceebass (The only thing Orwell got wrong was the date)
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