Posted on 12/11/2019 5:50:31 PM PST by Kaslin
Hoowiz is an obamacrat. Those people sold hire souls to evil.
We have way too many attorneys in government. I have respect for good ethical attorneys, but their mindset is often very different than a lot of other people and professions. They tend to be very concrete and succinct (e.g. ‘letter of the law’ instead of ‘intent of the law’ or other nuances or abstractions). Life isn’t always that way, and clearly Trump isn’t. He’s passionate, and both principle and outcome driven. We would do much, much better as a nation with a ‘diverse’ government - with people from all walks of life. No profession or group should be overrepresented. It leads to misrepresentation and group think.
It's not a lie. It's much worse. This morning Rush parsed it: the phrase "documentary or testimonial evidence" means no one admitted either in writing (documentary) or when asked verbally (testimonial) that they were biased, it's absolutely true that they didn't admit their bias.
In effect Horowitz merely say no one admitted it, and as a true scoundrel uses a half truth to tell a lie, he deliberately and maliciously phrased the half truth to lie and assert that there was no bias, when even the most casual of observers would see gross malignant bias in these peoples' every action.
Imagine the republicans drafting Rush to examine the witnesses in congress!
Bingo!...I switched to CNN to check...then I switched to MSNBC...Nope....C-span...Nope! ....Fox News had an exclusive!.......I suspect the Disney channel will cover the Democrat opening statement on impeachment....
I watched it on C-Span 3.
Horo’s Comey moment. Mistakes were made but, there was no malicious/political intent on the part of anyone.
Evidence be damned. However, Barr and Durham’s immediate response to that BS is telling.
So, the media spin is that Barr isn’t an AG. He’s simply a Trump Toady. Did the media say this when Obama’s AG stated PUBLICLY that he is Obama’s Wingman?
Are people too eager to jump on the soundbites and not look into the details on this?
Horowitz said he could not prove "intent". It was not his job to prove "intent".What he did, was explain point by point how the FBI lied repeatedly in a one sided manner, in such a way that the intent is obvious.
He found the truth; that was his job. How he characterizes what he found is just his protecting himself in a bureaucracy, and that is normal.
So he found the truth, and now it is up to Barr and Durham now.
As John Solomon pointed out, there were actually 51 violations of the WOODS PRCEDURES, rules established to ensure accuracy with regard to the facts supporting probable cause.” This included:
9 False Statements
9 Inaccurate Statements
33 Statements without verification or supporting evidence.
One was arguably worse than the FBI lawyer changing the Carter CIA email. The FBI interviewed Steele’s primary source. He told the FBI that the entire Dossier was unverified and made up. So, the FBI reported to the FISA court, that they found that witness to be truthful and trustworthy. But, they didn’t tell the court what he had said. Unbelievable!
Uhhhh, gee... Where's the FBI bias? /s
“”””””Horowitz said he could not prove “intent”. It was not his job to prove “intent”””””””””””””””
True. I watched the whole thing. Horowitz did his job and he did it very well. He even found that the FBI lawyer changed an email which is a huge deal.
If some of these people would watch it they might be better informed.
(hat Tip Peter C Earle)
When are the Pubbies gonna ask these questions?
1. Why is the U.S. giving $400 million to Ukraine, anyway?
It makes little sense. Europe is providing aid to Ukraine as it reacts to an encroaching Russia, which annexed Crimea in 2014. One can see how EU nations might be concerned about a Russia with Western ambitions, but with 2,800 miles of Europe and another 3,000 miles of ocean between us (in addition to our being $22 trillion in debt and running the first trillion-dollar budget deficit in history), foreign aid (of all types) is one of a thousand potential starting points for getting our fiscal house in order. Doing so would also ensure that America has clean hands, where the tragic effects of the fog of war are concerned.
2. Exactly how many U.S. government employees are dedicated to dealings with Ukraine?
The endless parade of present/former U.S. special deputy chief acting assistant provisional envoy policy liaison advisers (and their assistants, drivers, food tasters, etc.) tasked with providing aid, defense advice, and more to Ukraine is staggering ......as must be their salaries, and will be their pensions and retirement benefits......all paid for on the backs of working class Americans.
As John Solomon pointed out, there were actually 51 violations of the WOODS PRCEDURES, rules established to ensure accuracy with regard to the facts supporting probable cause. This included:
9 False Statements
9 Inaccurate Statements
33 Statements without verification or supporting evidence.
Now that his report is being parsed by experts like Solomon I hope Horowitz’s next appearance isn’t going to be so chummy. Horowitz needs to be nailed to his chair until he admits to this flim flam.
1. Why is the U.S. giving $400 million to Ukraine, anyway?’’
The $400 mil is a bribe to Ukraine not to fight the Russian invasion too hard. You can trace it back to Merkel bullying them into surrender at the so-called Minsk agreement. The kenyan wasn’t interested and had fobbed it off on Merkel and Macron.
“Bias is why they did this. Bias is why they used a bunch of garbage, the Steele dossier. Do you realize it has been made abundantly clear here that when the FBI suspected the Russians may have had something to do with hacking or whatever Hillarys campaign or server, that they went in and briefed her, and it was elicited even from Horowitz himself that the FBI did no such thing when they thought the Russians might be involved with Trump. “
I totally disagree with this, the FBI didn’t investigate President and Candidate Trump because of bias, they did it because the White House told them to
We are looking too hard at this Bias nonsense and not looking at the real cause here.
Don’t let the media pull the wool over your eyes
OBAMA’S FBI used a ANTI-TRUMP DOSSIER PAID FOR BY ONE CANDIDATE to GET A WARRANT from a FISA court to SPY ON THE OTHER CANDIDATE..
Uhhhh, gee... Where’s the FBI bias? /s
You are looking at this all wrong, the FBI wasn’t Bias per se, heck even if they were it doesn’t matter, what matters is that the White House told the FBI upper chain of command to do this. That is what matters.
The FBI didn’t investigate Trump because they were bias, they investigated Trump because the Obama White House told them to.
Big difference
In fact, once that is proven, the leftist dopes would have wished the FBI was bias and were to blame for this.
Also I am not saying the FBI isn’t guilty of rigging FISA complaints or breaking other laws in the process, they were.
I just watched on YouTube Graham’s entire opening statement. I might hate Graham’s immigration policy, but he was terrific this morning. For Freepers with the interest, the full 40 minutes is worth watching.
Oldplayer
bkmk
source ttps://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/09/25/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-us-aid-package-to-ukraine-that-trump-delayed/
Heres what you need to know about the U.S. military aid to Ukraine-——its conflict with Russia began in 2014.
In June, the Pentagon announced plans to provide $250 million to Ukraine in security cooperation funds for additional training, equipment and advisory efforts to build the capacity of Ukraines armed forces. The U.S. State Department separately planned to provide $141 million in aid.
The U.S. has committed more than $1.5 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since 2014, when Russian-backed separatists began driving tanks through eastern Ukraine. The latest equipment was largely more of the same aid the U.S. previously supplied, aimed at helping Ukraine monitor and secure its borders, deploy its forces more safely and effectively, and make progress toward NATO inter-operability.
The Defense Departments tranche was set to include sniper rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, counter-artillery radars, electronic warfare detection and secure communications, night vision equipment, and military medical supplies and treatment. The department previously included counter-sniper equipment, Humvees and tactical drones as well.
—SNIP—rest at source
If someone writes an email that says “I hate Donald Trump” and then a day later takes an action that is harmful to Donald Trump, is that evidence of intent?
F^%$ yeah it is!
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