Vegan influencer eats meat for 30 days, shocks fans by saying she's healthier than she's 'felt in years'

Fox News ^ | December 08 2019 | Michael Hollan

[Bob434]

there were several in our area that i went to for vitamins and special drink mixes when i had a condition awhile back- needed high levels of protein and certain sugars- there were 3 in a nearby town that i had to go to for the different products-

[Bob434]

yep- have read a few articles on that now- seems it does take a toll o n the body- and may actually shorten life expectancy-

[Wuli]

Proteins

[Don W]

Red herring? Seriously, you are unaware of peta's anti-meat crusade? Perhaps this will remind you

or this

or this

[GOPJ]

...ever notice that when you go into health food stores everyone looks pale, skinny, pimples, and just not healthy looking?

Yep, AND their favorite conversations AFTER talking about food - is talking about their doctors.

[southern rock]

What you are doing is know as an association fallacy.

[Don W]

How is showing you part of ONE of the PeTA campaigns to encourage veganism an association fallacy?

They themselves say “GO VEGAN!” Please explain your position that that is not what they are saying here.

The denial is strong in this one...

[RooRoobird20]

My niece was a vegan for many years and then decided to start including meat in her diet in her early 20’s. She quickly said that she felt better than she had ever felt in her life once she started eating meat.

I think a lot of vegans are (literally)mentally ill. Examples: Greta Scoldilocks Thunberg, Adam Schittforbrains and Gay Spartacus Jazz Hands Booker.

[Rebelbase]

Ran across this a bit ago. Gonna try it soon.

Traditional Newfoundland Corned Beef Cakes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRoDFIQRjJY

[Reily]

I think she should try a breatharian diet?

[southern rock]

OK. You really need to look up what an association fallacy is. Just because PETA encourages people to go vegan, doesn’t mean that I, or most vegans have anything to do with PETA. That is an association fallacy. And that is because PETA had absolutely nothing to do with this thread whatsoever. This was originally a story about a disingenuous YouTube “influencer” . I pointed out how I don’t believe her for a minute and then I simply began responding to people who said that being vegan was not healthy. This is obviously not true I have been vegan for 10 years and I can cite books by several doctors that show that being a whole food vegan can prevent heart disease, diabetes, cancer, and a host of other chronic illnesses. Literally nothing to do with PETA.

[trisham]

There is a reason that we have canine teeth.

[redinIllinois]

Thanks for posting...

[Thermalseeker]

Really? My Cardiologist, who I’ve seen for an arrhythmia for over 30 years, is thrilled with my numbers for my age (57). Several members of their practice have personally interviewed me about my diet and exercise habits. I eat what I want (plus oyster mushrooms) and work my farm (lots of exercise and no gym fees!) They tell me it is extremely rare to see numbers as good as mine in someone my age. From what I’m told I’m smack dab in the middle of where I need to be. I’ll continue to listen to them. Thanks. BTW, no one in my family has ever had cancer, although several have passed early from strokes and heart attacks. Mushrooms have many strong anti-cancer/anti-oxidant compounds, too, particularly reishi, shiitake, and lions mane mushrooms.

[Mr Rogers]

Yes, really. A lot of cardiologists have bought off on the idea that cholesterol can never be too low. Medicine has it’s own form of “Fake News” and too often what the large medical groups say is NOT based on science at all.

Glad you are happy and I don’t expect you to believe me. But there is a lot of bad information on cholesterol being pushed by organizations locked in to the idea that cholesterol is evil. I’ve been unable to find ANY study that says 150 is better than 200. But the ‘cholesterol is bad’ mantra has a lot of folks believing it is.

Good luck. It sounds like you have a healthy lifestyle and I honestly think THAT is more important than ANY cholesterol number. We are all individuals.

[Thermalseeker]

Actually, no, I haven't bought into the BS about cholesterol because I understand the biology of how the endocrine system works. Humans must have some animal fat in their diet. Without it you are quite literally begging for major health issues. Your endocrine system runs on fat and your endocrine system controls everything from your temperature to your bowel movements. Your liver is the source of cholesterol. The problem is for years we've been told that mono and polyunsaturated oils are what we should be using, i.e., canola, safflower, etc. These oils, when used continuously, cause inflammation in the endothelium, the innermost one cell lining found in your arteries, veins and heart. Your liver produces cholesterol as a "patch" of sorts to protect the inflamed areas. Over time, this cholesterol builds up until you clog up to the point of MI or stroke. I don't use these oils at all and haven't in probably 30 years. I realized when EZ Off oven cleaner wouldn't remove canola spilled on the stove I probably shouldn't be eating canola. I don't eat fast food because these oils are used. I don't eat pre-prepared snacks, like potato chips, Oreos or granola bars, because these oils are sprayed on those products as a preservative. This is not to say that I don't eat fried chicken, hamburgers, steak, cookies, granola or french fries. I do, but I make it fresh at home. McDonald's french fries have 19 ingredients. My french fries have 3, potatoes, peanut oil and salt. We cook fresh every meal and grow most of our own food. If you look around the world where societies consume a lot of mushrooms you'll notice several differences in long term health. Places where fungi are consumed regularly and in greater quantities have much lower incidences of brain diseases like Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and dementia. They also have much lower incidences of GI tract issues and MUCH lower incidences of cancer, particularly tumorous cancers. Every culinary mushroom we grow, over 29,000 lbs this year alone, have medicinal properties. For incidence, shiitake, aside from being 24% protein, is one of the best sources for Vitamin D3, much better than dairy, which has to be fortified to meet minimum FDA standards. If you go by the minimum FDA standard you are literally begging for cancer and probably rickets in children. Shiitake also contains anti-inflammatory compounds as well as anti-oxidants, numerous trace elements like copper, zinc, selenium and manganese you're not getting from commercial produce, along with a slew of essential and non-essential amino acids. The other culinary mushrooms we cultivate, such as oyster mushrooms, lions mane, chestnut (Pholiota adiposa), morel, maitake, mukitake, and enoki all have medicinal benefits. Eat more mushrooms. You'll be a lot healthier.

[Mr Rogers]

“Eat more mushrooms. You’ll be a lot healthier.”

Don’t like them. I’ll take my chances.

[Thermalseeker]

For most people who don’t like mushrooms it’s an issue of texture. I’m talking about gourmet mushrooms, not grocery store mushrooms. Grocery store mushrooms, like the white button mushrooms or Portabella or crimini have zero flavor and the texture is about the same as rubber. However, lions mane, for incidence, tastes like lobster or crab and has the same texture. King oyster mushrooms have the texture and flavor of scallops. Chestnut mushrooms are nutty in flavor with a crunchy texture. Still, there are some who want mushroom flavor, but not mushroom texture. So, any mushrooms we don’t sell within about 18 hours are dried, powdered, bottled and sold under our private label. We have 5 varieties, oyster, golden oyster, shiitake, lions mane and chestnut. Lots of folks who don’t like mushroom texture (my wife included) love the powders because they contain copious amounts of glutamate, or glutamic acid, which stimulates umami, your 5th sense of taste, along with many of the same nutrients as fresh mushrooms. Glutamate is similar to MSG, but without the sodium, so it doesn’t upset your stomach or make your heart flutter. Mushrooms are one of the few foods which contain glutamate. The powders are a great way to get the benefits of mushrooms without the texture. Most people who use our lions mane powder are using it medicinally. Look up the health benefits of lions mane mushrooms (Hericium erinaceus). Hang onto your hat because it’s pretty mind blowing. (or maybe “restoring” is a better word)

[Mr Rogers]

Well, we agree on something. My mushroom experience is grocery store mushrooms and I hate the texture. Don’t mind them ground up and in a stew. I’ve never tried gourmet mushrooms, but I’ll consider it.