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To: Bob Ireland; TXnMA

There’s no reason whatsoever a hole could not have been included in the design. Using molds to form those Pumapunku structures was feasible, obviously leaving a hole would be just as simple.

Here’s something I was looking for, my memory isn’t what it used to be.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/cutting.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/cutting05.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/images/cuttingslide05.jpg
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/cutting07.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/images/cuttingslide07_2.jpg
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/cutting08.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/images/cuttingslide08_1.jpg
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/images/cuttingslide08_2.jpg


145 posted on 12/05/2019 7:21:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
***leaving a hole would be just as simple***

How do you do that when pouring a soft rock slurry? Small perfectly round (extruded?) metallic tubing perfectly spaced and held in place by ??? ...and then there is forming the groove in which the holes begin. You are possibly a stone mason; I am just a skeptic.

***Using molds to form those Pumapunku structures was feasible***

Again, enlighten this poor initiate how to build a mold for those 'H' blocks with virtually glass smooth surfaces; could you do that with hand hewn wood? What would I make the molds from?

My point is not to argue but to raise legitimate questions - legitimate to my untrained mind. You don't have to respond. I think Davidovits makes a compelling case for his 'geopolymer', but he still raises questions - which perhaps he could answer. It is beyond my ken. Or perhaps some of the engineering was performed much later.

147 posted on 12/05/2019 8:25:02 PM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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(I hope I've got these right, I can't view them on this machine)
As a young man, Denys Stocks was obsessed with the Egyptians. For the past 20 years, this ancient-tools specialist has been recreating tools the Egyptians might have used. He believes Egyptians were able to cut and carve granite by adding a dash of one of Egypt's most common materials: sand.

"We're going to put sand inside the groove and we're going to put the saw on top of the sand," Stocks says. "Then we're going to let the sand do the cutting."

It does. The weight of the copper saw rubs the sand crystals, which are as hard as granite, against the stone. A groove soon appears in the granite. It's clear that this technique works well and could have been used by the ancient Egyptians.

Cutting Granite with Sand | PBS Online | NOVA Online | WGBH


Cutting Granite with Sand
Besides cutting clean surfaces on their granite, the Egyptians also drilled cylindrical holes into their stones. A hole eight inches in diameter was found drilled in a granite block at the Temple of Karnak.

"Even with modern tools -- stone chisels and diamond wheels -- we would have a tough time doing such fine work in granite," says Hopkins.

Stocks was brought along to test his theories about how the cores were drilled. Inspired by a bow drill seen in an ancient Egyptian wall painting, Stocks designs a home-made bow drill. He wraps rope around a copper pipe that the Egyptians could have forged. Hopkins and Lehner then pull back and forth on the bow, which is weighted from above. The pipe spins in place, rubbing the sand, which etches a circle into the stone. With the assistance of the sand, the turning copper pipe succeeds in cutting a hole into the granite slab.

Cutting Granite with Sand | PBS Online | NOVA Online | WGBH


Cutting Granite with Sand
With the aid of a bow drill and sand, the pipe has cut a circular hole into the stone. But how can the drillers get the central core out?

Stocks wedges two chisels into the circular groove. The core breaks off at its base. Stocks reaches in and plucks it out, leaving a hole behind not unlike the ones once cut by the Egyptians.

Cutting Granite with Sand | PBS Online | NOVA Online | WGBH


Cutting Granite with Sand

Cutting Granite with Sand

151 posted on 12/05/2019 10:31:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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