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White House hopeful Warren takes aim at unpredictable work schedules
reuters ^ | 12/03/2019 | Amanda Becker

Posted on 12/03/2019 6:26:37 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

I get a schedule on Thursday for the next week that starts Friday. At the top it says “Schedules are subject to change daily.” And hey do. this is one reason we are always short of people, and have a high turnover. Of course we old “retired” people can suck up the overtime. 56 hour weeks are not unusual. But to have the government mandate work rules? guess higher pay would be needed but then cost of goods and services would have to go up. And there is alwas the law of Unintended Consequences.


21 posted on 12/03/2019 6:49:53 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Vladimir Illyich would have loved this squaw. On the train through Germany to Russia, taking him to his new job as mega-mass-murderer, he personally wrote out bathroom schedules for all the people accompanying him.


22 posted on 12/03/2019 6:50:06 AM PST by samtheman (IsnÂ’t diplomacy all about Quid Pro Quo? IsnÂ’t the Executive tasked with fighting corruption?)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Now this is a good example of the Peter Principle. Next thing she will manage school lunches.......................

Maybe that’s why we keep hearing talk of President Moose.


23 posted on 12/03/2019 6:51:28 AM PST by samtheman (IsnÂ’t diplomacy all about Quid Pro Quo? IsnÂ’t the Executive tasked with fighting corruption?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Don’t underestimate the appeal that this will have with the very same voters the Dems want to turn out next Fall.

This has long been a pet peeve of low-wage, part-time workers (particularly women).

I worked for a retail chain that posted a computer generated schedule that ran Fri-Thurs. Your 3 biggest days as a retailer are obviously Fri-Sat-Sun. On Monday they’d run a recalc and if you did not hit your sales plan the odds were there was no way you could possibly make it between Mon-Thurs. So the program went back and automatically cut hours and posted a new schedule. Conversely if you blew the weekend away it added hours and posted a new schedule with additional shifts.

They put the onus on employees to check in on Monday to see if their schedule had changed. They all hated it because it made it absolutely impossible to plan the rest of your life around the schedule (or to count on a certain minimum number of work hours).

To the company it made perfect business sense, but the ill-will that it created is apparently coming home to roost.


24 posted on 12/03/2019 6:51:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Wuli
Soviet style “industrial planning”. Never worked for the Soviet Union, won’t work anywhere.

This current crop of knuckleheads believes that modern IT technology will finally allow them to do it successfully.


25 posted on 12/03/2019 6:53:02 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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Big box stores and computer generated part time work schedules make it literally impossible to seek supplemental employment. And since the fulltime market is squelched due to AHCA costing models, the end of these cost driven practices are not going away until the AHCA is repealed.

Warren has no intention of repealing the AHCA, meaning this proclamation is complete BS.


26 posted on 12/03/2019 6:54:28 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Tl;DR - How To Make More NPC’s Act


27 posted on 12/03/2019 7:03:31 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Elections have consequences. get over it, we won! ~ Barack Obama)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Trump economy creating lots of jobs will fix this problem imo. People unhappy with this problem will be able to find a better job.


28 posted on 12/03/2019 7:03:59 AM PST by MulberryDraw
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Your post explains perfectly why online shopping and self-serve checkout lines are chasing more and more retail jobs out of existence.


29 posted on 12/03/2019 7:04:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

sadly enough, I have to admit that I totally agree with Warren that this type of scheduling of temp employees is cruel, exploitative, and disruptive and destructive of family life, and legislation of some type is necessary to rein in the megalithic corporations that exploit people like this ...

i base my opinion on extensive conversations with many actual workers in these low level jobs at places that i shop at ...

naturally, warren’s “solution” is ridiculously punitive and unworkable, but that doesn’t mean that a reasonable solution is impossible ... for example, a more reasonable solution might be that any worker ordered in on any non-scheduled basis automatically gets time-and-a-half (or even double) time pay ... this benefits the disrupted employee and provides a major financial incentive for lazy, exploitative corporations to develop efficient scheduling systems, instead of simply screwing all of their low-level employees all of the time simply because they can ... it’s not that difficult to develop algorithms that factor in season, weather, time, holidays and many other factors that tell a corporation how many employees they need at a given time a few days in advance ...

if they companies can figure out in advance how much merchandise they need for any type of situation, then they damn well can figure out how many employees they need in advance as well ... well run companies like Costco already do this very effectively ...


30 posted on 12/03/2019 7:06:41 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Your post explains perfectly why online shopping and self-serve checkout lines are chasing more and more retail jobs out of existence.

True. Although labor and scheduling practices at Amazon warehouses are generating a lot of the same ill will.


31 posted on 12/03/2019 7:21:09 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Warren has TOO MANY PLANS.

No wonder Wall Street says they will not support Warren if she wins the primary. They claim she is just too anti-corporation, which is the mainstay of Wall Street.

What it sounds like is that's she is a big commie like Bernie. Micro-managing employee work schedules for corporations from the White House is the first clue.

How big will the bureaucracy have to grow to regulate this huge part of private sector America?

The democRATS just can't leave well enough alone. They have to find a way to screw things up even if they aren't broken.

32 posted on 12/03/2019 7:21:13 AM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: Gen.Blather; SunkenCiv; Liz; Kaslin

I am in power plant repair and servicing.

Let me make sure that Warren schedules all of her power plant breaks and crashes and emergencies two weeks in advance.

But you see, “legitimate business reasons” provide excuses, so every business plans a two week schedule, then cancels it as soon as it is issued. Good for bureaucrats and school teachers though, right?


33 posted on 12/03/2019 7:21:47 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE
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To: catnipman

I worked in the retail industry for over a decade.
All of my former employers went bankrupt and are now out of business.

In my opinion this was NOT due to overscheduling a couple of minimum wage shifts per week. Rather it was due to deliberate choices made by senior management to rack-up unsustainable levels of debt in order to finance ill-advised expansions.


34 posted on 12/03/2019 7:23:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Tucker39
Exactly, who is going to enforce these minutia laws on business owners? The west coast is going so far left, all three states are out of their minds. Oregon and Washington are going after landlords, they have a new law that you must rent to the first applicant no matter what. Oh, and you cannot check their criminal record anymore!

So we have discovered the loophole, everyone that calls on our rentals is NOT the first applicant, everybody is the second applicant. Enforce that, you morons.

35 posted on 12/03/2019 7:38:03 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Jolla
employer must give you time off to attend another job

And that would be time off WITH pay, I assume.

36 posted on 12/03/2019 7:41:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: Robert A Cook PE; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; ...
Thanks Robert A Cook PE.

37 posted on 12/03/2019 7:58:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh, thank goodness!!!!! That’s #1 on my list of national problems that need to be fixed immediately.

obligatory /s


38 posted on 12/03/2019 8:13:23 AM PST by bgill
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

All 16 employees want every Friday off and that’ll shut down small businesses quickly.


39 posted on 12/03/2019 8:16:27 AM PST by bgill
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To: ChicagoConservative27
hey you can schedule people two weeks in advance, I used to.............but, those schedules are always subject to change due to unpredictable and unforeseen circumstances of a thing called life.

This is just Liawatha trying to buy votes by promising more shit to any fool that will believe her.

40 posted on 12/03/2019 8:59:46 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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