Posted on 11/28/2019 11:01:55 PM PST by TECTopcat
First of all i cannot imagine the hate that must go into the thinking that you want to "shut down Trump supporters" ... at thanksgiving-really Thanksgiving?!. And I know these numbers don't make sense with record low unemployment but I need some help deconstruct job growth numbers: Here's article:
Today hundreds of millions of Americans will sit down with close friends and family over heaping portions of turkey, stuffing and mashed potatoes. After the usual small talk about chilly weather and the days football matchups, discussions will inevitably shift to politics. In a country bitterly divided over the Trump presidency and his looming impeachment, heated arguments will begin. Tempers and passions are likely to flare. But they shouldnt.
Political discussions should not be about left or right, Democrat vs. Republican. Instead, they should be about what is objectively right or wrong for the country. Thanks to the enormously corrosive effects of partisan, ratings-driven media outlets (and the dangerous echo chambers they fuel), such fact-based, ideologically neutral distinctions have largely disintegrated.
With these realities in mind, the facts are simply not on Trumps side. A few discussion points from the perspective of a political independent on key topics follow:
The Economy: President Donald Trump made the economy a centerpiece of his 2016 campaign. Three years into his presidency, Trump relentlessly touts job growth under his administration. But it is important to note that 1.1 million fewer jobs were created during Trumps first 33 months in office compared to Obamas last 33. Trump also promised to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States. But manufacturing is now the smallest share of the American economy in 72 years. Meanwhile, median household income, an important economic measure, has remained largely stagnant over Trumps first three years in office. Trump administration spin aside, increases in household income trail those under Obama, which grew steadily toward the end of his administration.
Moreover, in selling a massive tax cut to the public, Trump promised 4, 5, even 6 percent annual economic growth. With dismal growth expected this quarter, Trump will finish his first term with a high-water mark of 2.9 percent annual economic growth (in 2018) matching Obamas economic record. Apparently, Trumps much-touted rollbacks of regulations protecting American workers and the environment had very little effect on economic growth. Moreover, the massive Trump tax cut, which overwhelmingly benefitted the wealthy and corporate interests, did not pay for itself, as Trump predicted it would. Perhaps worst of all, despite his repeated promises and assurances, Trumps tax cut had almost no effect on the economy.
This stunning lack of growth begs the question: Why are we racking up trillions in debt (much of it bought up by China) thanks to the Trump tax cut? The only discernible effect of the Trump tax cut appears to be an explosion in wealth and income inequality. Indeed, inequality in America is now at levels not seen since Wall Street greed caused the economic crash of 1929 and the Great Depression. For his part, Trump told his ultra-wealthy friends that You all just got a lot richer immediately after his tax cut was passed.
But a system where three citizens own more wealth than the poorest half of the country cannot be sustainable. Indeed, with inequality fueling large-scale, brutally violent protests around the world, Americans would be wise to take heed of the pitfalls of extreme wealth concentrated in the hands of a few. And, if contemporary warnings do not suffice, the French, Russian and Cuban revolutions, among many others, serve as stark reminders of what may be to come if wealth is further concentrated in the United States.
Moreover, as a direct result of the massive Trump tax cut for the wealthy, 2018 was the first year ever that tax revenues actually declined in a relatively strong economy. This paved the way for the Trump administration to post the largest monthly deficit in U.S. history, further driving up the federal debt. While many commentators blame Obama for skyrocketing debt during his administration, they conveniently ignore that those increases according to the U.S. Treasury were overwhelmingly due to the long-term compounding effects of the massive George W. Bush tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy.
The (relatively small) debts accrued due to the Obama administrations aggressive economic recovery policies helped bring unemployment down from a high of 10 percent to 4.7 percent, an impressive decline of more than 5 percentage points. It should come as no surprise that economists overwhelmingly credit Obamas policies with bringing the U.S. economy back to life after the Great Recession an economy which Trump now loudly claims credit for.
Lastly, stock market gains are by no means an indicator of economic well-being on Main Street. After all, Wal-Marts stock could skyrocket, only to leave millions of Americans stuck in painfully low-paying jobs. But despite relentlessly touting Wall Street gains, Trump significantly trails both Obama and Clinton in stock market performance at this point in their respective presidencies.
Health care: Trump (and GOP) efforts to undo the Affordable Care Act resulted in 1.1 million Americans losing health coverage in 2018. This breaks a 10-year streak of rising numbers of insured Americans.
Tragically, two-thirds of Americans filing for bankruptcy do so because they cannot afford to pay medical bills often despite having health insurance. Perhaps worse, America is seeing an alarming increase in deaths of despair, particularly among the white, working-class citizens who turned out in droves to vote Trump into office. An increasing mortality rate is not the sign of a healthy economy or country; it is a hallmark of staggering wealth and income inequality.
Immigration: Deportations are far lower under the Trump administration compared to the same period during the Obama administration.
Foreign Policy: Trump should be commended for standing up to Chinas unfair trade and economic espionage practices. But despite branding himself the ultimate dealmaker, Trumps deal-making abilities on the international stage have proven abysmal. North Koreas brutal dictator, for one, played Trump like a fiddle. By exploiting Trumps weakness for pageantry and flashy photo opportunities, Kim Jong Un hoodwinked an oblivious Trump into gaining international legitimacy for his murderous regime.
In Iran, Trumps disastrous (and utterly failed) maximum pressure campaign displays a stunning misunderstanding of Iranian history and strategic priorities. Indeed, Trumps unilateral withdrawal from the landmark 2015 nuclear deal negotiated alongside Americas closest allies and supported by key figures in the U.S. and Israeli security establishments represents a tremendous blunder that is emboldening the worst, most conservative, anti-American factions in Iran. Trumps withdrawal from the agreement also gives cover for Iran to inch ever-closer to obtaining a nuclear bomb.
It should come as no wonder that America is the laughingstock of the world. With Trump siding with authoritarians and dictators around the world, American credibility and popularity on the international stage has plummeted to historic lows.
Impeachment: Democrats claim that Trump improperly (and illegally) withheld crucial security assistance to a close American ally at war for personal gain. A litany of (decidedly unimpeachable) patriots delivered a series of devastating blows to Trumps defense. Even Fox News anchors and analysts have slammed Trumps actions as impeachable. At the end of the day, only one question matters: Why was the security assistance to Ukraine stopped? The answer is painfully obvious.
Identity Politics: Trump has railed against political correctness. But Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) and Andrew Yang have all spoken out against the corrosive effects of identity politics and political correctness run amok. Perhaps most importantly, President Obamas forceful rejections of woke culture and ideological purity should be a wakeup call for the left. Continuing to push such divisive narratives will further alienate the crucial voters in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin who decide American presidential elections.
And, lets not forget, the market responded to President Trumps election almost immediately after the election, creating fake better numbers for his predecessor.
If you had employees working over 30 hours a work you had to provide health insurance, so the university I work at started limiting student workers to 20 hours, way overkill just because of Obamacare, and it was like that all over the country, public and government employers...
There were some people and economists who said part time jobs were great, because you could spend more time with your family that way...
In real life, there was a lot of pain from people not getting enough hours to get by well!!
Sorry to hear that. I'm fortunate in that every single member of my family seated at my sister's dinner table last night is a conservative. The only argument was between my brother-in-law and myself and how much he spent for a year membership at LA Fitness...........LOL!
That is also a very important point, that the real economy should be measured from Trump’s election, since ‘our’ people are better at dealing with facts...
There were some people and economists who said part time jobs were great
Those would have been the Left-wing academics and government economists that have never had a real job or ran a business.
Right!!!
We call them ‘educated idiots’
I do not seem to recall articles about shutting down your Obama supporting family.
Yes. If you think waaaaayyyy back to November, 2016, the markets reacted very favorably to the news of President Trumps election almost immediately. Investors understood that it was just a matter of months before the boot was coming off their necks and a seasoned CEO was taking over.
Brilliant.
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