Posted on 11/26/2019 11:11:15 PM PST by knighthawk
For months, the White House, congressional Republicans and the conservative punditocracy have rebutted House Democrats’ impeachment efforts by arguing that President Trump’s July 25 phone call with his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, didn’t amount to some nefarious “quid pro quo.”
This strategy is mistaken. The “no quid pro quo” clash amounts to a semantic debate over a phone call transcript. And it is largely unpersuasive, on its own terms, and especially to the president’s haters.
Instead, there is a more intellectually compelling and politically potent line of argument that Trump and his defenders ought to adopt — free speech.
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Everybody who aren’t a leftist zomby already knows why.
Nobody with half a brain also understands why Biden’s corruption is ‘debunked’.
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Good arguments in a political sense but it’s not the “quid pro quo” that was Trump’s mistake here. It was him boldly trying to get his POLITICAL OPPONENT investigated. If he had done such a conservation regarding, say, Hillary, he might have be pilloried in the press, but the wasteful impeachment hearings would not have happened. I continue to think that the phone call was dumb of Mr President.
“” “” It was him boldly trying to get his POLITICAL OPPONENT investigated.”” “”
Not that boldly. And let’s not forget the collusion libel shadowing his presidency. The democrats established this standard and he didn’t even followed it in full.
I continue to think that the phone call was dumb of Mr President.
So being of another political party is corruption protection? Or do you have to be running for office?
Can we only investigate members of our own party?
How likely is that to happen?
So many questions in the new way.
#AdverserialGovernment
It is all a tempest in a teapot scenario, and rather ridiculous when one considers some of the issues that Congress ignored regarding the previous incumbent.
Surely possessing a false social security number and possibly concealing factors that would make that previous incumbent ineligible to serve are far more important than if Trump crossed some imaginary line to get information about the Bidens, information which in any case is either true and therefore worth knowing, or false and therefore worth eliminating.
Now that 3 senate committees and I believe Ukraine as well are investigating the Bidens, it gives credence to the fact that there was indeed Biden corruption to investigate. As if the Biden video bragging about it wasn’t enough.
The President is sworn to uphold the law and that includes investigating corruption. If that corruption involves a member of the opposition party or even a potential candidate, too bad. It’s not like Trump asked them to make up dirt.
Pelosi and Schiff spent 3 years investigating their political opponent, Trump. And it turns out they were investigating stuff that they made up.
The delusional hypocrisy is asstounding!
The Democrats want to focus on what he did to avoid the question of whether it was illegal. If Trump does anything, they treat it as a given that it’s against the law. Very Stalinesque.
Why don’t you have yourself a nice, tall glass of SHUT UP.
Billions went missing in Ukraine, and so far no one seems interested in knowing what happened. Furthermore what investigations there were, from the US side and Ukraine's side, were actively shut down by some of the very people testifying before Congress, which renders that whole exercise breathtakingly cynical.
State Department and the Soros alphabet soup of NGOs have turned Ukraine into their private fiefdom and piggy bank. And sadly it isn't possible to open up that can of worms without exposing politicians whose names we know. Biden is small fry, he was a mere VP and had no power. If they are giving him that kind of money, how much must wind up in the pockets of the people with actual power?
Biden likes to take credit for shutting down the investigator, but there was more to it than that. Lots of people were involved with lots of meetings.
Biden is the tip of the iceberg for what is going on in Ukraine. And if this kind of skullduggery is going on there, you have to ask yourself if this is a one-off, a unicorn, or is this standard operating procedure for State, NGOs, and the politicians who fund them, world-wide? This may be so big that it even shocks *us*. Which would make it very dangerous for anyone who tries to pull back the curtain.
More to the point, Trump had a duty to the American people to ask for the investigation, based on the past behavior of Biden and his son. People are not immunized from investigation, or entitled to a recusal, just because they belong to a different political party than the President. People claiming otherwise would have had no problem if Trump Jr. had been investigated.
That’s what I mean. He handed them ammunition for their folly. And the media runs behind them like a team of dogs.
The “other party” isn’t what gave them ammunition. It’s because he is (somehow, still) a front running candidate against him that gave them the edge to start this crap. It “appears” he is trying to take down his rival. If it were on the other side, maybe it would look clearer to people.
I have had many such glasses of SHUT UP lately because people around here don’t like that I don’t lay down and worship a human leader. I actually learned from the Bush worship in these parts years ago. Revere Gd, not fallible people. I don’t feel that was a well thought out communication by Trump. If it hurts your tushie when I say that, I have a salve.
It doesn’t hurt my tushie that you have a problem with NOTHING AT ALL, but it definitely makes you look like a useful idiot to The Left.
And why the Hell shouldn’t he seek an investigation into a corrupt as Hell politician?
How is that, in any way at all, a problem?
Who else is going to do that besides no one at all?
He could have had someone else do it more behind the scenes.
He set himself up for his salivating domestic enemies.
No, he didn’t, they set him up.
They will attack him regardless of what he does or does not do.
They will make sh*t up. Right out of nothing.
Now wise up, and stop being a fool.
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