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Fire Spencer! You have every right to refuse to obey an UNLAWFUL order. None at all to disobey because you disagree. If you cannot obey THEIR lawful orders, why would anyone below you obey YOURS?

What in the hell is going on in the military? Former Lt Col myself and I cringe with shame seeing Vindman and other policy weenies dragging the military into the gutter. I've refused to obey an order I believed illegal. That is one thing. But I NEVER disobeyed a lawful order. Or pretended it wasn't binding because it was only verbal.

1 posted on 11/23/2019 8:47:19 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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“What in the hell is going on in the military?”

The Obama purge of flag officers?


2 posted on 11/23/2019 8:49:06 AM PST by jospehm20
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3 posted on 11/23/2019 8:49:53 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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If Truman could fire MacArthur, a genuine American hero, Trump can fire this jackass.


4 posted on 11/23/2019 8:49:58 AM PST by TTFlyer
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Trump’s intervention into the Navy’s affairs has angered senior military officers and civilian officials in the Pentagon, according to the Post.

Intervention? Um What?

The Navy's Chain of Command ends at one place.

President Trump.

5 posted on 11/23/2019 8:51:47 AM PST by KC_Lion
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Eight years of Obama is what is wrong with our military. He systematically purged our best, brightest and most patriotic Generals, Admirals, Senior level Officers and NCOs and replaced them with his Commie/Muzzie sucking lackeys.

This is the schiff-storm that President Trump is having to deal with, today.

Now only has our military been infested, so has the entire Federal Government.

Anybody who is drawing a taxpayer funded paycheck who can correctly pronounce the name: Barak Hussein Obama needs to be terminated with extreme prejudice.


7 posted on 11/23/2019 8:55:49 AM PST by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat..... & ERIC CIARAMELLA")
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... Trump’s intervention into the Navy’s affairs ...

Intervention? INTERVENTION? He is THE Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces - he can't "intervene" in the affairs - they are HIS. HE appoints the Secretary - he works for the CinC. The commanders are sworn to uphold HIS orders. As long as they are lawful, what the CinC says is the way it is!

Stupid freaking journalists.

8 posted on 11/23/2019 8:55:49 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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It’s like he’s saying, “Fire me, I won’t serve under a President Trump.” In that case he should resign.

But, he may figure if a number of (well warranted) Trump military firings can be made political, he’ll be lauded as a martyr for “the cause.” He’s probably has a good retirement secured anyway. This will raise his post-military visibility considerably.

Maybe he could parlay that into a gig hawking reverse mortgages.


9 posted on 11/23/2019 8:55:59 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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What part of Commander in Chief doesn’t he understand? Trump has to fire him immediately!!


10 posted on 11/23/2019 8:57:03 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and Improved Redneck!)
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‘I believe the process matters for good order and discipline,’

Trump, when he announces he has fired the idiot, should give as his reason - for good order and discipline.


11 posted on 11/23/2019 8:57:20 AM PST by odawg
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If Trump lets this insubordination ride, then what is the incentive for any top officer in the military to obey his orders.


12 posted on 11/23/2019 8:58:51 AM PST by odawg
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President Trump would be well advised to fire the d.bag.
It is pretty obvious this Navy Sec does not have the brains to take a really, really, really strong hint and mend his ways. This guy, left in office, is likely to await opportunity to stab P.Trump in the back.
Guy’s obviously a demigod in his own mind....who does Trump think he is, ordering ME around...gggrrrhhh!!!...this is NOT over!
Watch your back P.Trump, this guy is now your serious enemy and will work behind your back to hurt you.


19 posted on 11/23/2019 9:04:43 AM PST by OldArmy52 (Mayor Buttplug for President!)
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What in the hell is going on in the military?

The same thing that's happened to most every other American institution and tradition.

22 posted on 11/23/2019 9:05:36 AM PST by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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The President is always the commander in chief. This is insubordination in a military officer. Gotta go.


27 posted on 11/23/2019 9:10:03 AM PST by tbw2
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Dims are probably trying to set up another scenario for impeachment.


31 posted on 11/23/2019 9:16:41 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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“I believe the process matters for good order and discipline,’ Spencer told Reuters,”

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That is the whole point here. Gallagher was rail roaded and the entire military justice system abused its power and corrupted the process to persecute the guy.

The whole process was corrupt, abusive and illegal. President Trump is correcting the injustice Gallagher has been subjected to< p>

34 posted on 11/23/2019 9:23:14 AM PST by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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Fire his azz


36 posted on 11/23/2019 9:27:25 AM PST by Renegade
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Green needs to be reminded who his boss is.


38 posted on 11/23/2019 9:30:19 AM PST by bgill
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“.The Navy responded with a statement saying it would follow ‘lawful orders’ from the president”

Oh, Trump should take this opportunity to give this mutineer a lawful order. Summon him to the White House. Tell him to go bring you a cup of coffee. Tell him no cream or sugar. Then after he brings it, tell him all proceedings against the SEAL are over. Ask if he has any questions.


39 posted on 11/23/2019 9:31:03 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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[[’I believe the process matters for good order and discipline,’ Spencer told Reuters]]

Then you won’t mind looking for a civilian job then for disobeying an order then huh?


41 posted on 11/23/2019 9:35:53 AM PST by Bob434
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Just like those state department fools that were testifying all week. The President is doing things differently from how we usually do them, so he must be wrong and we don’t have to listen to him.

Fire his ass. Now.


44 posted on 11/23/2019 9:40:37 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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