Skip to comments.Fiona Hill, Alexander Vindman and the problem of dual citizenship
Posted on 11/22/2019 8:02:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Like a lot of Americans, I've had longtime and close friends renounce me for voting for President Trump in 2016. I can think of two, and yes, it was baffling and hurtful.
It's also natural to wonder why such a consequential thing might happen, whether there was some common denominator. What could be behind the intensity of that anti-Trump sentiment that would cause such dear friends to throw away twenty-plus years' friendships as if they never happened? I can think of three or four more who haven't renounced, but have the same anti-Trump intensity. Some things I noticed in all of them and wondered about were their dual citizenships, their fluid ties to foreign governments, and their Soros affiliations ...
Which brings us to the impeachment witnesses seeking to overturn the results of the 2016 election, such as National Security Council functionaries Fiona Hill and Alexander Vindman.
Hill, who testified yesterday, is quite credibly reported to be a dual U.S.-U.K. citizen, and like my former friends, has Soros affiliations, hers through the Eurasia Foundation.
According to Eleanore Clift of the Daily Beast:
Born into a family of coal miners in northern England, the 54-year-old Hill is a dedicated academic with a reputation for careful scholarship and commitment to patriotic duty. She has dual U.K-U.S. citizenship and holds advanced degrees in Soviet studies and history from Harvard.
According to Politico:
Born into a family of coal miners in northern England in 1965, Hill was deeply affected by the Donbass miners strike in 1989—the first major strike in Soviet history in what is now eastern Ukraine. She went on to become a scholar of Russian history, earning her master’s degree in Soviet studies from Harvard in 1991, where she also met her future husband. (She became a dual U.K.-U.S.)
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Then there’s Vindman, who received three offers to lead the Ukraine defense ministry, later calling it a “joke,” would seem to be someone of dual-citizenship, too, given the kind of offer he got, the kinds of interactions he had that suggested loyalty to the country and led to the offer, and the difficulty in believing that the offer, made repeatedly, really was a “joke.”
The legal picture on Ukraine suggests he wasn’t a dual citizen, however - and singular citizenship, in Ukraine, is a very big deal, given the trouble the nation has had in sorting itself out in the post-Soviet rubble. Vindman emigrated from what was then the Ukraine in the 1979 at a young age with his father and two brothers, who were Jews leaving the persecution of the Soviet Union.
Two things would disqualify him right away from Ukrainian citizenship, according to Wikipedia - that he wasn’t on Ukrainian soil when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, and that he joined and served in a foreign military. All the same, the laws are pretty fluid in a place like Ukraine and corruption is bigtime common, so anything could be the case. It would have been useful to hear from him under oath that he isn’t a dual-citizen, as appears likely.
Vindman isn’t a dual citizen if he has a ts clearance. If he does, it had to be approved by a President.
I worked in a DC office years ago where I handled visa issues upon occasion. In handling a case involving a SKorean dual citizen, I was told by State department liaison that the US does not recognize dual citizenship, even if another country may. Should a person having a dual US passport get into trouble - in this case SKorea (ie. for not serving the mandated military service), the US would not intervene in any way to help.
All too true, a large number of the conspirators against the President are foreign born as well.
The founders only required a natural born citizen for ONE office and we couldnt even get ANYONE to uphold that.
The Constitution is an illusion.
Even here on the most conservative website I get people arguing that Anwar al -Awlakis kids, born in Yemen to one citizen parent, are natural born citizens eligible to be President.
If Ted is, they are.
The founders used the strictest standard of citizenship they could find, natural born citizen, born here of citizen parents, naturally a citizen because there could be no alternative.
Solely an American with ONE nationality, ONE allegiance, ONE loyalty.
Obama is not a natural born citizen.
His foreign father made him a British subject and Kenyan national at birth.
He may not be a citizen at all.
His mother renounced his US citizenship and made him an Indonesian citizen.
He never naturalized when he came back.
Pretty sure it was an Indonesian passport that he used to travel until he became a US Senator and got a US passport because of the office.
He used a fraudulent social security number for his whole life until the SSA gave him a new one when he was Usurper.
Citizens have their own and dont need somebody elses.
Resident Obama approved 100s of nefarious types for top level security clearances.
All the same, the laws are pretty fluid in a place like Ukraine and corruption is bigtime common, so anything could be the case.
Corruption is bigtime common in the USA or the Kenyan from Indonesia could not have usurped the office.
Obama is NOT a natural born citizen.
He might as well be. His entire testimony was fighting for the interests of Ukraine.
And besides Vindman and Hill, don’t forget Samantha Powers the irish woman. Remember Yovanovitch the Russian/Canadian/American. And who can forget the Moslem Brotherhood Egyptian princess Humma Weiner (Abedin)
Foreigners are crawling over DC. In 1970 the foreign born population of Virginia was 1 of 100. Now it is 1 of 10.
But triple citizenship is apparently OK:
Brits don't think the same way about government that native Americans do.
With only a secret clearance, one can have only limited foreign national contact without disclosing this to authorities.
So I can’t see a TS with dual citizenship.
Well, deep state, corruption, soros, democrats, ... might change all that.
. . . or perhaps just by Barack Hussein.
[[Born in 1965, Fiona Hill didn’t become a US citizen until 2002 [37 years old].]]
She’s the epitome of a Euroleftist. Smug, superior and condescending.
When did Fiona begin pretending to be a "woman"?
When people like Hill and Vindman open their mouths, you can tell where their allegiance lies.
To me, they are not Americans.
” if he has a ts clearance”
He has to have a lot higher clearance then a vanilla TS to be on the NSC.
Hard to imagine HOW he got through the wire.
He had/has a high level sponsor.
I have said that Vi damn is NOT an American citizen!!!
OBama would have approved that!
Fiona Hill was a SOUR POMPOUS ASS!
Vid man is just a PUNK ASS!
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