“This is getting clearer and clearer.
Giuliana is the rotten apple here!
Trump should never have trusted him.
I haven’t been able to stomach him for YEARS.
I think he’s saying trump wants this or that and it’s what GIULIANI wants. And Trump trusted him.”
I respectfully disagree. My take is that Guiliani was a back channel that Trump could trust, plus he’s Trumps private attorney. If you can’t rely on the prosecution to seek the truth, you rely on the defense lawyer to do that. (Perry Mason 101).
Sondland is substituting his judgment for Trump’s about the conduct of foreign policy. He is a Department of State puke. He doesn’t get that he advises, the President decides.
Guiliani was more likely operating from a criminal/DoJ point of view and Trump was acting in his capacity of chief law enforcer - enforcing American law. DoS has no competency in that area and Sondland should have gone quietly into the night.
None of this is getting past AG Barr. If this goes to the Senate, it will have massive repercussions on the DoS and the CIA. I hope in the end that the CIA gets disbanded. They are a government within a government and they have the means to control a narrative by selective leaks and tainting the truth to drive a specific message. They and the DoS comprise the worlds biggest criminal gang.
In this whole affair the DoS and intelligence communities come out very badly, along with the House of Representatives, that seems to be claiming ultimate jurisdiction over foreign policy - of course only to suit their own agendas.
The DoS, CIA, Democrat Party, and the MSM have been in collusion since the Obama administration and the House of Representatives is attempting to put a veneer of respectability over those activities and prevent the real truth from coming out.
My belief is that the Congressional Democrats intend to carpet bomb the American public with distorted truths all the way to the next election. It’s their only hope for defeating Trump.
They will even distort what comes out in a Senate trial, claiming the Republicans are aiding and abetting corruption. Since the MSM has no integrity, they will parrot those accusations to the American demographic most susceptible to that carpet bombing - the female demographic.
One good takeaway from the Sondland testimony is that any perceived or real quid pro quo wasn’t about the 2020 election, but the 2016 election - not about getting “dirt” on Biden, but to investigate real crimes.
The only real hope in this is Barr getting convictions in a court of law prior to the election next year. I think he has to indict and convict both Bidens. Hopefully the Ukrainians are helping build the case. It’s starting to look as if there is significant financial corruption in play - money laundering included. Bribery and extortion are also in play, but it wasn’t Trump perpetrating those crimes, it was Biden, the DoS, and very likely the CIA.
Anyway, that’s my take.
Yea that was before i started actually listening today and I was going by freepers’ hysteria.
I am gonna walk that back but I still don’t trust Giuliani. Not that he is a traitor but he has pretty bad judgment. But as to my claim earlier, I feel a little better at least about that.