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To: allendale

In the alternative, this is still for the benefit of Saudi Arabia, because the oil sheikh’s live a decadent lifestyle. Quite aside from the drunkenness, homosexuality and whoring, they do something much worse. They daily do business with infidels, and they don’t even bitch slap them. So to give them cred among Wahhabist nutbags, they prevail on the US to lean on Israelis in order to “help” the pore oppressed Palis. Being under the thumb of the PA does not do Palis one bit of earthly good, but the Israelis suffer, too, and what’s most important, benefits the oil sheikhs.


18 posted on 11/19/2019 7:05:26 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Observant intelligent people are well aware of the Saudi government intelligence services being well aware of the 9/11 plot and did nothing to stop it or warn the Americans. They are also well aware of the fact that the Bush family became incredibly wealthy in the oil business with a few quid pro quos with the decadent Saudis. After the Saudi sanctioned 9/11 attack GW Bush knew of the Saudi complicity but somehow chose to attack and destroy Saudi Arabia’s existential enemy Iraq. Over three thousand young brave American were killed, tens of thousands more physically and psychologically maimed and of course over three trillion dollars squandered. On top of it the debacle made the Obama Presidency possible. America suffers in many ways from these needless entanglements.

Actually its probably in the best interest of Israel to disengage from America. IMHO the Russians since the fall of communism have had a much more realistic approach to the area and its realities. Israel has many historic and cultural ties with Russia and they seem to understand each other well.

Love the story about the Saudis and the 2014 winter Olympics. The Saudis were very upset that Putin was supporting Assad and were disrupting their ISIS dreams. They advised Putin that if his support for Assad continued then they could not guarantee that the winter Olympics being held in Russia would not suffer terrorist attacks. Putin was grateful of the Saudi guarantee. He then stationed three Russian nuclear submarines off the coasts of Saudi Arabia and told the Saudis that if the Olympics were attacked, he would not be attacking Iraq. There were no attacks on the Russian Olympics.

Yet you, as a patriotic Israeli ( who I suspect was born in the US) should understand that as much as decent Americans admire what Israel has accomplished and built after the Holocaust and why it could not be done any other way, American support has had its consequences for the American people. It would be beyond naiveite not to understand the motivation of those vile, hateful privileged Saudis that resulted in the 9/11 carnage and all that followed. Neither you or I will be around long enough to read the dispassionate history of these times that will be written say two hundred years from now.


19 posted on 11/19/2019 7:44:38 AM PST by allendale (.)
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