[gov_bean_ counter]

So the public hearing aren’t going very well and they go back in private where they can pull something else out of their asses...

[Jane Long]

Is that YOU, Wolf/Acosta/Anderson????

You sure post a LOT of CNN 'gotcha' articles.

[RetiredTexasVet]

I would suspect that they are professional liars. Just watching a snippet of the people interviewed indicated to me that they were lying. All you had to do was watch their eyes and facial expressions to know they were lying.

[Widget Jr]

This is still not a quid pro quo.

[Trumpisourlastchance]

How did Katie Holmes get involved with this?

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[Swordmaker]

I just read through Holmes opening statement. It’s another exercise in hearsay for the Schifty-Schift Democrat Impeachment Inquiry Public Hearsaying. He actually over heard only a tiny portion of what the President said then asked Sondland afterwards what the President’s attitude toward Ukraine might be. What has been so grandly touted as Presidential quotations are Sondland’s interpretations of Trump’s overall attitude toward Ukraine, not actual quotations from the phone call. They are not even hearsay, but a characterization of someone’s opinion about the President’s opinion about an entire country, not a read-back of what was said on a phone call. Here is what Holmes actually said in his opening statement. You can see it was worse than hearsay:

“I then took the opportunity to ask Ambassador Sondland for his candid impression of the President’s views on Ukraine. In particular, I asked Ambassador if it was true that the President did not “give a s**t about Ukraine.” Ambassador Sondland agreed that the President did not “give a s**t about Ukraine.” I asked why not, and Ambassador Sondland stated that the President only cares about “big stuff.” I noted that there was “big stuff” going on in Ukraine, like a war with Russia, and Ambassador Sondland replied that he meant “big stuff” that benefits the President, like the “Biden investigation” that Mr. Giuliani was pushing. The conversation then moved on to other topics.”

These are Gordon Sondland’s words, not President Trump’s words in response to leading questions from Holmes. The only things that Holmes heard from President Trump on the phone were as follows:

“I then noticed Ambassador Sondland’s demeanor change, and understood he had been connected to President Trump. While Ambassador Sondland’s phone was not on speakerphone, I could hear the President’s voice through the earpiece of the phone. The President’s voice was very loud and recognizeable, and Ambassador Sondland held the phone away from his ear for a period of time, presumably because it was very loud.

“I heard Ambassador Sondland greet the President and explain that he was calling from Kyiv. I heard the President then clarify that Ambassador Sondland was in Ukraine. Ambassador Sondland replied, yes, he was in Ukraine, and went on to state that President Zelenskyy “loves your ass.” I then heard President Trump ask ”So, he’s going to do the investigation?” Ambassadors Sondland replied “he’s gonna do it,” adding that President Zelenskyy will do “anything you ask him to do.” Even though I did not take notes of these statements, I have a clear recollection that these statements were made. I believe that my colleagues who were sitting at the table also knew that Ambassadore Sondland was speaking with the President.

So, after all this wind and noise about this phone call, the only direct quotation from President Trump that the eavesdropping Holmes overheard relating to the question of investigations is “So, is he going to do the investigation?” . . . and we don’t even know WHICH investigation Trump might be referring to.

WOW! Big deal.

The rest is second hand hearsay.

[Swarthy Greek Immigrant]

This will teach Republicans they should not trust Bush Republicans or Neocons and not to arm these overseas regime change wars.

They say the JFK plot originated with the groups his admin organized to coup others overseas then turning on JFK when he went against their regime change plans in Cuba as revenge.

The American coup plotters for the Ukraine have been weaponized to be turned on Trump to regime change him.

[lurk]

How wise is Sondland to let a table full of dinner party fancies listen to his phone calls?

[Eleutheria5]

So what. He wanted Zelensky to do the investigation, and Zelensky wanted to do the investigation. Yawn.

[Fresh Wind]

If CNN tells me it’s Tuesday, I check the calendar to be sure.

[Swordmaker]

. . . David Holmes' opening statement, saying that he heard Trump telling Gordon Sondland: "So, he's gonna do the investigation?" Sondland tells Trump: "He's gonna do it" and that Zelensky will do "anything you ask for."

This is dispositive of nothing except that some “he” is going to do an “investigation” of something. Could be Zelensky, could be Giuliani, could be Inspector Clouseau, or David “Sherlock” Holmes, sitting across the table from Sondland making deductions from incomplete information, who knows who “he” is. Holmes jumped to another one of Shifty Schiff’s witness’ infamous conclusions, based on zero facts, that of the “Bidens” who they could not have known had been brought up in the call neither one was privy to made just the day before. It could have just as easily been “investigations into the pervasive corruption in Ukraine which Trump was seeking.” They did not know, but jumped to an unwarranted assumption. . . Which is making an ass out of themselves because they WANTED that to be the case, whether it was true or not.