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I have been disturbed that more FReepers are not bothered by Russian interference or Putin in general.

While there are certainly some Putin Sycophants here, in general, the reaction to the Russian "interference" has been pretty much on target. The "interference" was minuscule, and amounted to a small number of "Russian Internet Trolls" posting false and/or inflammatory information about BOTH Trump and Hillary, and a few thousand dollars of ad buys on Twitter and Facebook, again, targeted at BOTH candidates. The "Russia hacked the DNC" story appears to be fake and only backed up by the DNC and their contractor Crowdstrike. Blowing it up into a huge conspiracy was ridiculous and only intended to damage Trump.

In contrast, Ukraine's government has been proven to DIRECTLY INTERFERE with the 2016 election, including working directly with the DNC's Alexandra Chalupa to find dirt on Trump for the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Ukraine Parliament members pushed the false "Black Ledger" to undermine the Trump campaign and worked with Fusion GPS to help produce the "Dirty Dossier". The Ukraine Ambassador publicly attacked Trump in a US editorial piece, and Ukraine's Internal Affairs Minister posted and promoted anti-Trump propaganda on social media. This amounts to legitimate, concerted effort by Ukraine to interfere in the 2016 election, and collusion between the DNC, Clinton campaign and a foreign government.

While I'm no fan of Russia, and loathe Putin, the "Russian interference" has been thoroughly investigated, and there is little legitimate interference to find. With Ukraine, we have barely scratched the surface, and there is plenty. So, yes, you should be "bothered" by the Russian interference, but you should be downright OUTRAGED by Ukraine's.

he "Russia hacked the DNC" story appears to be fake and only backed up by the DNC and their contractor Crowdstrike. Blowing it up into a huge conspiracy was ridiculous and only intended to damage Trump.

Are you sure about that? Did you read the Mueller indictment of the 12 GRU officers for the hacking? There is a lot of stuff in there that isn't from Crowdstrike.

It's been almost a year since I read it, but it did leave me thinking that there was more evidence that just the Crowdstrike claims.

Here it is: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA * * CRIMINAL NO. v. ... , you can read it for yourself.

I was surprised that I found it pretty compelling. Unlike the Troll Farm case, which I found (and still find) laughable.

And, I think this is so obvious that it barely needs mentioning, but neither Mueller nor anyone else believes Trump had anything to do with the GRU operation. Just reading the indictment, it was a full on cyber-war operation, and it had nothing to do with Trump.

Our adversaries do this sort of stuff all the time. The Chinese hacked into the personel dept, computers for a big chunk of FedGov a few years ago.

GRU hackers are quite accomplished, essentially Russian Cyber Special Forces. They didn't need, depend on or seek help from anyone outside our their own team, just like if the CIA or DIA were running some sort of cyber-op against Iran, then wouldn't be using Iranian dissidents in Iran to help them. Not needed, too risky.