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In Blue New Jersey, a Conservative Backlash on Immigration (Murphy midterm mixed)
The New York Times ^ | November 8, 2019 | Tracey Tully

Posted on 11/09/2019 1:28:44 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff

A referendum on Tuesday’s ballot in New Jersey’s northernmost county asked whether voters wanted local officials to cooperate with federal immigration agents. It passed by a lopsided 2-to-1 margin. Nearly 200 miles away, along the state’s southern swath, a directive by the state attorney general that in part bars county sheriff officers from doing the work of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents has led two counties to file federal lawsuits. A third county has threatened legal action. The state attorney general’s rule not only precipitated the lawsuits, but also became a key election issue, generating support for Republican candidates who successfully ousted incumbent Democrats in a conservative district that cuts across Cape May, Cumberland and Atlantic Counties.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: aliens; aoc; ice; immigration; newjersey; nj; nj2019; nj2020

1 posted on 11/09/2019 1:28:44 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

One of those votes that the slimes is complaining about is mine!

Eff you commies.

Sussex county, my county, is VERY red.


2 posted on 11/09/2019 1:40:05 PM PST by Malsua
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

When I was a police officer in 1950’s the oath I took required me to enforce all laws - local, state and federal.

Is that not still the case??


3 posted on 11/09/2019 2:40:45 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Malsua

Sussex County NJ is very red. Why did its US Representative flip to a Dem in 2018?


4 posted on 11/09/2019 4:14:17 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Freee-dame
Why did its US Representative flip to a Dem in 2018?

Essentially gerrymandering. They folder super blue areas of Bergan county into the district to overwhelm the red voters.

5 posted on 11/09/2019 5:27:41 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua

If Paterson and Passaic are in your district, than Passaic County is the problem; what “super blue” area of Bergen County is lumped with Sussex?


6 posted on 11/10/2019 5:05:07 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Malsua

Maryland eliminated a formerly Republican won congressional district as well. It seems that the courts are ok with extreme gerrymandering in Dem states like NJ and MD, but overrule such districts in Republican majority states.


7 posted on 11/10/2019 8:43:20 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: kearnyirish2
If Paterson and Passaic are in your district, than Passaic County

Nope. It's the top half of Bergen. Some of the below are light blue, most are deep blue, I don't think any were red. Only two towns from Passaic are in there, West Milford and Ringwood, both mostly red.

Allendale, Alpine, Bergenfield, Bogota, Cresskill, Closter, Demarest, Dumont, Emerson, Fair Lawn, Franklin Lakes, Glen Rock, Hackensack, Harrington Park, Haworth, Hillsdale, Ho-Ho-Kus, Lodi, Mahwah, Maywood, Midland Park, Montvale, New Milford, Northvale, Norwood, Oakland, Old Tappan, Oradell, Paramus, Park Ridge, Ramsey, Ridgewood, River Edge, River Vale, Rochelle Park, Rockleigh, Saddle River, Teaneck (part, also 9th), Upper Saddle River, Waldwick, Washington Township, Westwood, Woodcliff Lake and Wyckoff

8 posted on 11/10/2019 9:17:40 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua

I see; I didn’t know those areas were lumped with Sussex in a House district. They are mostly well-off areas.


9 posted on 11/11/2019 3:50:54 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
I didn’t know those areas were lumped with Sussex in a House district.

Yeah, designed specifically to counter the redness of Sussex county. Population size is important too, considering those towns probably have a population of 300,000-500,000, they weren't taking any chances. The entirety of Sussex is around 150,000. They wanted to blow us out of any chance of leaving a drop of red in Northern NJ.

10 posted on 11/11/2019 4:40:31 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua

Alpine is on the Hudson River; does the other end of the district reach the Delaware? I assume this situation will worsen as NJ loses more seats; the state is experiencing a real “brain drain” as many of the best and brightest flee.


11 posted on 11/12/2019 2:54:09 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Alpine is on the Hudson River; does the other end of the district reach the Delaware?

Indeed it does. The top of NJ, River to River.

many of the best and brightest flee.

I've already purchased a home in The Villages, Florida. Got my golf cart too! I'm a part timer for the now, but I can't wait to leave. I'm still trying to figure out what I get for the $20/day I pay the state in property tax. I don't have kids, my HOA dues pave the roads, do the snow plowing, I pay for my own garbage and I'm on a well and septic. Fire is volunteer. Far as I can tell, I'm just being looted.

12 posted on 11/12/2019 4:56:12 AM PST by Malsua
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Thanks; I didn’t know one district toughed both rivers like that.

“Looted” is the word for it, and the clock is ticking on our government worker caste because many people who endured it for years are packing up and leaving. When I was younger, people moved when they retired (or could afford to remain in their single-family homes as retirees); more and more now simply leave when the last child finishes high school (NOT college), or when the last parent dies. As they leave, they are being replaced by some middle-class Asians and far more Hispanics in the permanent underclass; real opportunity vanishes as COMPANIES tire of the same tax burden (and see little return). The unspoken scandal is how much current revenue is used not just for huge salaries for today’s government workers, but to pay for the incredible benefits with which former workers have retired. Simply unsustainable...


13 posted on 11/13/2019 3:32:46 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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