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Will Gay Rights Trump Religious Freedom?
Townhall ^ | 11/06/2019 | Luke Goodrich

Posted on 11/06/2019 8:44:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Rurudyne

Thank you again, that was also very interesting.


21 posted on 11/06/2019 9:49:15 AM PST by Tax-chick (Down with the ChiComs! Independence for Hong Kong!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are competing religions.


22 posted on 11/06/2019 9:52:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: SeekAndFind
But as she re­viewed the file before meeting her third client, she learned he was a gay man seeking counseling for a same-sex relationship. Ward was happy to counsel gay clients about a wide variety of life issues, but her religious be­liefs wouldn’t allow her to affirm a same-sex relationship.

Was this a same-sex relationship or a same-sex marriage?

23 posted on 11/06/2019 9:53:06 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s a reason that Lev 20:13 prescribes death for homosexual acts, and God says several times the land will ‘spew you out’ for allowing such. Homosexuals will never accept live and let live. They lie. Ask Lot.


24 posted on 11/06/2019 10:04:43 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep.


25 posted on 11/06/2019 10:05:58 AM PST by sport
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To: SeekAndFind
Will Gay Rights Trump Religious Freedom?

From my view, way out here in the bleacher seats, it has already happened!

26 posted on 11/06/2019 10:08:43 AM PST by ImpBill (Conservative voter sans political Party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s kinda what they want to do. Actually, it’s destroying Christianity so there is no one reminding them that their actions are perverted.


27 posted on 11/06/2019 10:14:49 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
"The faculty concluded that Ward was guilty of discrimination and expelled her from the university."

Is California, of all places, the only state where abridgment of constitutionally enumerated rights by misguided state actors was appropriately dealt with in the context of the 14th Amendment (14A) even though taxpayers, not offending state actors, probably payed the settlement?

From the 14th Amendment:

H O W E V E R…

There is evidence that Christians are indirectly hindering federal lawmakers from making 14A-based laws to strengthen freedom of religious expression.

More specifically, if you Google “reasons that Christians don’t vote” you will probably get many links. These links are evidence that Christians are not using their G-d-given voting power to either elect, or keep in office, federal lawmakers who might otherwise be willing to exercise Congress’s 14A power to make laws that discourage anti-Christian activist state actors from abridging freedoms of religious expression and speech.

In other words, Christians have arguably put themselves in a situation where they are giving anti-Christian judges an excuse to legislate anti-Christian laws from the bench because Christians are not supporting with their votes federal lawmakers who might otherwise be willing to make protective laws for judges to enforce.

In fact, patriots who value their constitutionally enumerated protections of freedom of religious expression and free speech consider that Acts 22:25-29 shows that Apostle Paul got out of a flogging by claiming his Roman citizenship.

Insights welcome.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great!)

28 posted on 11/06/2019 10:15:44 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: TheConservativeBanker

Probably correct but they need big gov to maintain


29 posted on 11/06/2019 10:38:18 AM PST by genghis
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To: SeekAndFind

Depends on who is in charge of the FedGov. As sad as that is.


30 posted on 11/06/2019 11:00:31 AM PST by vpintheak (I donÂ’t want to gain the whole world and lose my soul. - Toby Mac)
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To: SeekAndFind

The gay couples who went after the Christian bakers and wedding photographers could have gone elsewhere. They chose not to. They SPECIFICALLY sought out people who did not agree with the LGBT agenda.

To the Left, there is no concept of mutually-respectable differences of opinion. There is only “right think” and “wrong think”. They consider anyone who does not agree with them to be monstrously evil, to be hunted down, silenced and destroyed.

The Left, and LGBT+ lobby will not compromise. They are on a jihad to eliminate “wrong think”.


31 posted on 11/06/2019 11:03:17 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

It already has.


32 posted on 11/06/2019 12:17:13 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My kids And tgeir friends All call each other “
gay “ and “‘faggot “ all the time as an insult

so as long as that keeps happening I think we’re good

They know never ever ever ever ever to even think about doing that at school though !!or they would get 1 million year suspension

Look here’s my two cents

You go ahead and PEt whoever you want ! lick whoever you want ! have sex with whoever you want !

we just don’t want to hear about it OK?

Nobody wants to hear about you and what goes on between your legs

Put simply , the aggressive legal homosexual aspect is merely a bold attack on Christianity and the Bible. And those who believe. Nothing more

What’s very important to protect and is very constitutional is :

freedom of speech

freedom of thought and written word

freedom of conscience

and freedom of religion

I’ll add freedom of movement

We will see there are those opposed to these and they must be countered

the line is only crossed when you try to dictate to others how you want them to be and then try to use force to exert your point of view ON THEM


33 posted on 11/06/2019 12:45:38 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

I’ve started using 3P as a pronoun: Preferred personal pronoun.


34 posted on 11/06/2019 3:47:41 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Oy! You’re right!


35 posted on 11/06/2019 3:49:10 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since the homosexual/racial rights platform is based upon the (specious) premise that they are genetically oriented toward same-sex attraction and thus should be protected from discrimination, which causes them harm, then born again Christian should be able to claim that they are spiritually oriented against same-sex attraction, and being forced to support it causes them harm.


36 posted on 11/07/2019 3:06:37 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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