he said to me many times chasing Villa in a land that adored villa and feared him was near futile
Posted on 11/05/2019 12:47:09 PM PST by Enlightened1
“This is the time for Mexico, with the help of the United States, to wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth,” he wrote on Twitter.
Trump’s remarks were sparked by news of American citizens getting slaughtered in Mexico, after getting caught in the crossfire of a cartel battle in the border state of Sonora. Relatives have said at least nine U.S. citizens were killed including six children of which two were seven-month-old twins, according to CBS News.
Trump urged Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador to ask for his assistance.
“If Mexico needs or requests help in cleaning out these monsters, the United States stands ready, willing and able to get involved and do the job quickly and effectively,” Trump wrote.
The president has campaigned on tackling criminal activity on the border, including the drug cartels. During an exclusive interview with Breitbart News in March, he said he was “very seriously” thinking of designating the drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.
“It’s psychological, but it’s also economic,” Trump said at the time. “As terrorists — as terrorist organizations, the answer is yes. They are.”
On Twitter, Trump suggested that Mexico needed American power to wipe out the cartels.
“The great new President of Mexico has made this a big issue, but the cartels have become so large and powerful that you sometimes need an army to defeat an army!” he wrote. “We merely await a call from your great new president!”
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Lucky for them that guy never fixed the road.
Or they would have gotten there sooner.
300 is on deck. Have a nice day.
I didn’t say perfect.
Just first.
If some entity demonstrates the ability to breach a fortified wall, or go around it, then we have to take it to them.
But a fortified wall should be the first step.
I live in Southern California. I’ve been to Ensenada and said the same thing to myself when seeing those barren oceanside vistas. “Where are the houses?”
But that doesn’t address my earlier post. Cocaine is not produced in Mexico, at least the coca plants anyway. And the price of poppies has plummeted.
Because nation building over here would be soooo much more successful.
He better start wiping them out of the US first.
Was going to say the same thing. If he doesn’t whack them here first, then he is looking at seruious internal issues, and the way ICE agent are treated in these scumbag states, he is eating way more than he can chew on this one.
Identify cartel headquarters then send in a couple of A-10 warthogs to flatten the place and finish with Predator drones hunting down the escapees. Screw Mexican sovereignty.
Better to take out drug dealing terrorists here in ‘our neighborhood’ - - than halfway around the world in the Middle East...
Here's the more positive, affirmative approach. As an aside, you do realize that anyone can buy/finance/insure any property in the USA, UK, France, Italy, etc, right? Or, in your words, sell off "their" countries to foreigners? That's what happens when you have free capital flows and legal investment protections. The result is $trillions of value in cross-border trade and economic growth.
MX has an artificially constrained economy. It's based on the convenience of maintaining the status quo by Castilian Spaniards controlling the game. They've got property rights tied up so that no one can move, leverage or invest. In this way, the ruling class keeps the 90% peasant population impoverished and willing to engage in subsistence farming and other sub-optimal activities, including low level drug trade.
Everyone is happy with this arrangement: the banks, including US banks, MX politicians and business owners, US interests in maintaining drug/migrant flows (ie deep state/DNC/GOPe). The only down-side is when we get a story like this, along with the usual million or so drug overdose/addiction cases occurring on an annual basis.
So, everything is great as long as no one gets too upset about occasional collateral damage. Lots of talk, lots of outrage, but then it all settles down again. Been this way for hundreds of years. Problem is, populations are growing, so the downside effects are becoming harder to contain.
The only way for the problem to be actually "fixed" is to break the hold the Spaniards have on MX society, culture and economy. To do that, the country has to join all the other advanced & developing countries that allow free capital flows. For Japan and China, that means factories (yep, "selling out their countries"). For London, that means real estate and global banking access.
For MX, well, they are literally the global beauty queen in terms of both weather and territory. If you could actually acquire a direct ownership, back it with a mortgage, title and homeowner's insurance, the place would take off like a rocket. That's the key, so all one has to do is watch the bouncing ball. Trump plays a military card, forget it. Trump plays the cartel suppression card along with open investment opportunities, and MX can finally be a capable, worthwhile southern neighbor.
I did see that movie.
During the 2016 campaign Trump said we should treat the cartels like enemy armies. I thought it was one of the most sensible things I had ever heard from anyone running for office.
We can do that. Declare Messico a failed-state and dispatch about 50,000 grunts and their devil dogs, unleashed, for Operation Red Sash - no quarter for cartel members. Ride them down like Wyatt Earp and shoot them dead on sight. And while we’re at it, round up the illegals and deport them to a newly-liberated Mexico. We’ll need another 10K grunts for that chore, and NYC to pay a year’s rent for them all. Great way to instill some civilized values to Mexico Ver2.0. Trump could start at SLC and should be able to do this in less than 60 days leaving Congress flapping their jaws to the wind wondering what just happened. And America and Messico will be much better for it. Or we can follow Messico’s president’s lead, throw up our hands in the air and declare, ‘we tried to fight them but it’s no use’
he said to me many times chasing Villa in a land that adored villa and feared him was near futile
“after getting caught in the crossfire of a cartel battle”
I don’t believe that for a second.
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A fool’s errand to send the uniformed U.S. military after the cartels.
Drones and sicarios only.
Little known fact. Back during negotiations for the Gadsden Purchase, the Mexicans offered to throw in “useless” Baja California for a small additional cost, and we turned it down. Our main demand was San Diego Bay, and nothing much south of it.
Owning beautiful but very dry Baja since 1847 would have meant it would be as developed as our state of California.
The family was moving in a convoy of three SUVs. One had a flat tire, so they pulled over to fix it.
What do you think 3 SUVs parked near some cartel property looked like to cartel spotters with binoculars and cell phones?
Once anybody fired at them, they had to finish the job, from their POV.
That’s a foolish idea. It reminds me of General Crook’s thought about chasing Apaches:
“Going after the Apaches with the U.S. Army is like deer hunting with a brass band.”
The cartels would melt and disappear before any large armed contingent passing through, and reconstitute once they were gone.
How they intersect is a story all it's own.
“The family was moving in a convoy of three SUVs. One had a flat tire, so they pulled over to fix it.”
Thanks. I hadn’t read that. But it kind of puts the lie to them being caught in some kind of cross fire.
What kind of savages do this? I know I just answered my own question. Savages.
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That sounds like a good idea.
Trist
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