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Free of Charge: For Bill de Blasio, newcomers to the U.S. have no obligations.
City Journal ^ | Autumn 2019 | Seth Barron

Posted on 11/03/2019 11:21:31 AM PST by karpov

Earlier this year, the Trump administration announced that it would expand the list of government benefits it considers when defining a person as a “public charge.” Under the new terms, an immigrant receiving, say, food stamps, emergency cash assistance, or living in public housing may see those benefits count against him when he seeks to upgrade or extend his visa status or apply for citizenship.

It was long believed that immigrants to the United States should not impose social burdens and should thus secure local sponsors who could guarantee their expenses until they got settled. The Immigration Act of 1891, for example, excluded from entry “insane persons, paupers or persons likely to become a public charge, persons suffering from a loathsome or a dangerous contagious disease,” and other undesirable categories, including felons and polygamists.

Progressive localities have responded furiously to Trump’s directive. New York City and State have joined a lawsuit to prevent the expansion of public-charge criteria, alleging that it reflects animus against nonwhite immigrants. “The ultimate city of immigrants will never stop fighting President Trump’s xenophobic policies,” declared New York City mayor Bill de Blasio. New York attorney general Letitia James called the rule change “a clear violation of our laws and our values” that would make “more children go hungry,” though aid to children was excluded from consideration in the new rule.

A Federal judge in Manhattan issued a nationwide injunction earlier this month, blocking the new rules from going into effect. Judge George B. Daniels said the Trump administration was perverting the intent of the law, and that the rule “is repugnant to the American Dream of the opportunity for prosperity and success through hard work and upward mobility.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: clintonjudge; deblasio; districtjurisdiction; georgebdaniels; immigration; judiciary; nyc; politicaljudiciary; rapinbilljudge; welfare
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1 posted on 11/03/2019 11:21:31 AM PST by karpov
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Judge George B. Daniels said the Trump administration was perverting the intent of the law, and that the rule “is repugnant to the American Dream of the opportunity for prosperity and success through hard work and upward mobility.”

All costs necessary to service Foreign nationals and anyone without a valid and verified Social Security number, including but not limited to, education, healthcare, welfare, food stamps,cash aid,.. Shall be Paid for by a special assessment on the Incomes and Assets of ALL Judicial Officers within the State.

Then make only Judges and Lawyers foot the bill for aliens.
2 posted on 11/03/2019 11:32:03 AM PST by eyeamok
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[[It was long believed that immigrants to the United States should not impose social burdens]]

HA!- illegals are costing this country between $400 BILLION DOLLARS and $600 BILLION DOLLARS (and this estimate was from a decade or more ago) PER YEAR when all the costs, both direct and indirect, are added together- and indirect cause would be say an illegal injured a citizen, gets put in prison- taxpayers pay for the incarceration, (This is direct cost) but the indirect costs would be the injured citizen loses job, insurance goes up, has to hire attorney etc

Several studies were done to estimate the costs- and they were a staggering $600 BILLION DOLLARS Every single year- even back then- probably close to, or even over 1 TRILLION DOLLARS per year now

the wall costs what? a one time fee of $25 BILLION DOLLARS, with annual fee of say $100 million or so? Build the Wall! We will save many hundreds of billions of dollars every single year provided we kick all the deadbeats who came here just for gov handouts out as well

Nearly 70% of actual ‘immigrants’, and illegals, are on some kind of government welfare program- they are draining our economy- it’s a lie that illegals make us money- they do not- they cost us hundreds of billions of dollars a year!


3 posted on 11/03/2019 11:36:12 AM PST by Bob434
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Can we please incorporate into the new rules a requirement that all city, state, and federal democrat politicians and their democrat family members be required to house, feed, and care for said ‘immigrants’ for a period of not less than one year or until the ‘immigrants’ are financially independent?


4 posted on 11/03/2019 11:36:46 AM PST by know.your.why
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To: Bob434

That can’t possibly be right. Lieawatha says that, if we open the doors and bring in a billion no-work and minimum wage immigrants, their tax payments will cover Medicare for All.


5 posted on 11/03/2019 11:45:03 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: karpov
A Federal judge in Manhattan issued a nationwide injunction...

Why are federal DISTRICT judges still allowed to do this? Do they no longer adhere to SCOTUS? Have they gone rogue? Does anyone on SCOTUS care? Is America under the control of a Judicial Oligarchy (well... YES!)?

6 posted on 11/03/2019 11:45:19 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: karpov

They have an unwritten obligation to vote Democrat.


7 posted on 11/03/2019 11:45:30 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-)
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To: know.your.why

If that happened, they’d turn right around and make conservatives sole provider of the defense department. Liberals would love to stop paying that 700 billion and say so often.


8 posted on 11/03/2019 11:49:58 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: karpov
“is repugnant to the American Dream of the opportunity for prosperity and success through hard work and upward mobility.”

Only in the tiny, corrupted minds of liberal know-nothings who want to force others to do the charity they never practice themselves.

9 posted on 11/03/2019 11:53:18 AM PST by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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[[Why are federal DISTRICT judges still allowed to do this?]]

Good question, another good question is why has no republican said “Hey wait a minute- they are exceeding their limits”?


10 posted on 11/03/2019 11:54:42 AM PST by Bob434
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To: karpov

And, of course he and the rest of the Democrats would feel exactly the same way, and hold exactly the same positions if these groups were likely to vote Republican.


11 posted on 11/03/2019 11:56:30 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: jeffc
Why are federal DISTRICT judges still allowed to do this?

They're not.

However, if Trump was to ignore the ruling outside Clinton Democrat appointee George B. Daniels' jurisdiction [the Southern District of New York], the Democrats, the Media and some "Republicans" would scream IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!!!

They've been trying to do this since Trump became President.

This is where "judge" Daniels' injunction holds sway, and nowhere else in this country:

The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (in case citations, S.D.N.Y.) is a federal district court whose geographic jurisdiction encompasses the counties of New York (Manhattan), Bronx, Westchester, Putnam, Rockland, Orange, Dutchess, and Sullivan in the state of New York.

Eight counties.

NOT anywhere else in the country.

12 posted on 11/03/2019 11:59:02 AM PST by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Bob434

See my post 12.


13 posted on 11/03/2019 11:59:57 AM PST by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: karpov

Pass a Law saying Judges can only advise and not overturn Lawmakers but a Judge will overturn it ,LOL


14 posted on 11/03/2019 12:05:56 PM PST by butlerweave
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So America is under the iron fist of a (Leftist) judicial oligarchy? Time for a new Revolution...


15 posted on 11/03/2019 12:07:39 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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"The Immigration Act of 1891, for example, excluded from entry “insane persons, paupers or persons likely to become a public charge, persons suffering from a loathsome or a dangerous contagious disease,” and other undesirable categories, including felons and polygamists."

Our ancestors were wise people and benefited to us a great nation. Our generation, however is festooned with ignorant socialists who wish to destroy every remnant of our ancestors and will render this country down to level of savages and illiterate masses that make the movie, "Idiocracy" look like Rhode scholars...
16 posted on 11/03/2019 12:15:21 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: butlerweave
Pass a Law saying Judges can only advise and not overturn Lawmakers but a Judge will overturn it ,LOL

The Constitutional remedy is impeachment. A Congress that cared about guarding its prerogative to make law would impeach every one of these jokers instantly the moment they issued such rulings.

17 posted on 11/03/2019 12:29:10 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Clinton Democrat appointee George B. Daniels

That's all you need to know. All Carter, Clinton, and Obama appointed judges are lawless. They will automatically rule against President Trump. Just like the Liberal Media, these judges are extensions of the DNC.

18 posted on 11/03/2019 12:43:52 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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All those billions of dollars to finance more voters for Dems to totally take over the electoral college vote in TX, FL and elsewhere. Good bye America if we don’t stop it now.

Do those roughly 50% of voters who will vote against Trump in 2020 really want to pay all that money?

And to face all that crime?

To have their guns taken away by agents at their front door some evening? Or worse?

To go to jail for refusing to let their child have a sex change after a school employee tells them to do it?

To have loss of freedom of speech because someone calls it “hate speech” to disagree with them?

To lose Medicare (”Medicare for All” actually means total loss of Medicare and private insurance even if citizens paid for it from their paychecks for decades to support Medicare-—Mark Levin said).

To pay deductions for reparations for blacks who had no relatives ever in the African slave trade? Or to Oprah,LeBron James and Rhianna and Beyonce?

Do they know all this? Or simply hate Trump?

Shouldn’t GOP advertisements tell them all of the above? It’s not just “Trump brought jobs”. The hypocrites used “It’s the economy, stupid” but now the economy means nothing to them.


19 posted on 11/03/2019 1:17:41 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media nepws censorship or we are finished.)
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"It was long believed [??? emphasis added] that immigrants to the United States should not impose social burdens and should thus secure local sponsors who could guarantee their expenses until they got settled."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Desperate Democrats are again trying to rewrite history imo.

To begin with, let's consider federal government support for non-citizens to be foreign aid, regardless if such people are residing on US soil. The problem with foreign aid in that context is that Justice Joseph Story had warned that Congress cannot used the General Welfare Clause as an excuse to justify foreign aid.

If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” —Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2

Next, Justice Joseph Story had also indicated that the Constitution's provision to return fugitives to the state where they allegedly committed a crime for trial, Article IV, Section 2, Clause 2, was inspired by international law, ultimately a security precaution in stark contrast to Democrats now arguing for open borders for undocumented Democrats.

The post-civil war congressional record expands the issue of state security to the national level where non-citizens are concerned.

More specifically, Congress had condemned renegade states that wrongly give non-citizens the power to vote. It was appropriately argued imo that giving non-citizens the power to vote effectively nullified the "uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause" (1.8.4), weakening the Union.

Corrections, insights welcome.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great!)

20 posted on 11/03/2019 1:35:47 PM PST by Amendment10
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