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To: Jim Noble

The only way for outcomes of K-12 to be equal is for everyone to be equally stupid.


I’m afraid you are right. A big part of public education (I’ve taught in public schools over 40 years) is trying to deny what I call the tyranny of the bell-shaped curve. Half of the students are ‘below average’—they have to be.

This was the fatal flaw of Kennedy/Bush ‘No Child Left Behind’ which had the ultimate goal of having every kid reach ‘proficiency’. And they meant every kid. Rich, poor, native Spanish speaker, special ed kids—every single kid. It was absurd. The only ways to meet the standard was to either cheat, or lower the standard to an absurd level. Both methods were used.

Common Core goes on the assumption that the problem with the schools is that teachers just aren’t teaching the right stuff the right way. If only they would that, then every child would be able achieve success in school. But of course the idea is based on a lie—that we are all blessed with the same abilities.

Everyone knows that there are some people who are brilliant, some who are average when it comes to smarts and some who are really, really dumb. Educators are not allowed to acknowledge this. If the whole educational establishment is based on an absurdity, why is anyone surprised that it is not actually working?


52 posted on 11/01/2019 7:47:55 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu

My grandmother taught in NYC Public from 1911-1966.

When she was confronted about unequal outcomes near the end of her career, she would shrug and say, “somebody’s gotta clean the subways”.

Too bad she’s not in charge.


63 posted on 11/01/2019 8:16:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: hanamizu

My ex wife taught in public schools in both CA and NV.

She would often go on tirades about the pressure to make the stupid, smart.

Even though everyone know you cannot fix stupid.

You can’t even call stupid, stupid. Nor can stupid be acknowledged.

Average IQ for black and Hispanic kids continues to hover between 80 and 85. That’s genetic and can’t be fixed. Half of all of them are below 80. Rarely do you find one that’s over 100, even by small margin.


66 posted on 11/01/2019 8:34:17 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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