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To: Mark17; SaveFerris; Roman_War_Criminal
When I was in the USAF, I was at Incirlik. I don’t know what it was, but I felt this oppressive feeling, like I was in an evil place. That was back in the 80s, and I have never thought that Turkey was our ally.

Amen brother. Retired USAF here, and I landed and spent days and nights at Incrilik (and all over the Middle East) many times.

To be blunt, most of the Turks hated us. I never considered them part of NATO, because I considered Western Europe to be the real NATO. People forget that not too long ago, our real NATO allies backed us strongly. It wasn't like Europe of today (as you well know).

The oppressive, heavy feeling you felt is exactly what I experienced in most Middle East countries. I could not put my finger on it at the time, but today I completely believe it is spiritual in nature.

The Bible speaks of geographic areas and nations that are in the clutches of specific demonic beings. Daniel 10:13 is one example, describing how an angel had to contend with a demonic being who had control of Persia (Iran) before the angel could assist the prophet Daniel.

Ephesians 6:12 speaks of what we are up against.

You are most likely a very spiritually perceptive person.

9 posted on 10/23/2019 2:21:30 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal
The oppressive, heavy feeling you felt is exactly what I experienced in most Middle East countries. I could not put my finger on it at the time, but today I completely believe it is spiritual in nature.

Agree. I am familiar with the Prince of Persia story, from Daniel. By the way, many don’t realize that Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar wrote a chapter in the book of Daniel. Judging from what he said after his 7 years in the field, I think it’s entirely possible, we might see him in the Kingdom.
I couldn’t put my finger on it either, but I am convinced now, it was definitely spiritual in nature. I felt the presence of evil in Turkey. I am sure I might have felt that way about other Middle East countries, but I was fortunate enough, that I never went to any others, and I was only at Incirlik for a week long TDY, to help them with their TERPS program.
I went to TERPS school at Keesler. It was the HARDEST, most difficult school I had ever attended in my entire life. I didn’t have a clue what was going on, from the moment I got there, till the moment I left. Once I got out into the field, however, I caught on pretty well. 👍

10 posted on 10/23/2019 3:22:57 AM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I do not care if some do not like that. It will NEVER be my problem)
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