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In a press release last week, the ICIG confessed that it changed its rules in response to an anti-Trump complaint filed on August 12. That complaint, which was declassified and released by President Donald Trump in September, was based entirely on second-hand information, much of which was shown to be false following the declassification and release of a telephone conversation between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
1 posted on 10/07/2019 7:57:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The IG is dirty. Bank it.


2 posted on 10/07/2019 7:59:35 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: SeekAndFind

To paraphrase Stalin, “It doesn’t matter what is investigated, but who does the investigating.”


4 posted on 10/07/2019 8:02:01 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: SeekAndFind

Nice posting job, thanks. Monica is a fav.


6 posted on 10/07/2019 8:08:38 AM PDT by upchuck (Democraps say the President is out of control. They mean the President of out of THEIR control.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So it’s ex post facto?


7 posted on 10/07/2019 8:10:17 AM PDT by Openurmind
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conspiracy to overthrow the government sedition insurrection etc..whistleblower his attorneys, schiff, pelosi all need to be investigated..schiff needs to be immediately removed from ic.
guess they thought no one would notice eh? this is serious.


8 posted on 10/07/2019 8:10:55 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no justice no peace and leakers)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ICIG is Michael Atkinson.


10 posted on 10/07/2019 8:13:57 AM PDT by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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Now he reports that it gets worse. Davis reports that it turns out the rules weren’t changed in August, they were changed in September, and the watchdog agency, the Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) backdated that rules change.

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So the “rules” were changed to fit the fabrication of non-evidence. That’s not a perversion of law. No sir. Not one bit.


11 posted on 10/07/2019 8:17:40 AM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are deathly afraid that the entire Kenyanesian Usurpation and all the crimes therein will be exposed.


12 posted on 10/07/2019 8:17:55 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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“ “[T]he timing of the removal of the first-hand information requirement raises questions about potential connections to this whistleblower’s complaint,” three House Republican lawmakers wrote in a letter to Atkinson on September 30. “This timing, along with numerous apparent leaks of classified information about the contents of this complaint, also raise questions about potential criminality in the handling of these matters.””

Not that the DOJ will look into it......


13 posted on 10/07/2019 8:18:13 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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"Intel IG doesn't want to answer questions about it"

If the Republicans had any spine, they would compel his testimony before the Senate Intel SubCmtee.
14 posted on 10/07/2019 8:27:49 AM PDT by indthkr
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The corruption is so wide and deep, I am thinking it cannot be fixed from within the system. We may soon need a Storm the Bastille moment with a lot of traitors hanging up and down Pennsylvania Avenue to have any impact at all.


15 posted on 10/07/2019 8:29:51 AM PDT by Truth29
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Why does it matter to this case if the form was changed? According to the IG the whistleblower used the old form.


16 posted on 10/07/2019 8:35:02 AM PDT by semimojo
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The IG intel need to respond to questions & provide the paperback up to support the revision. There should be a paper trail of sign off on the revision. If there is none, the policy really isn’t in place. That means it is fraudulent.


18 posted on 10/07/2019 9:13:08 AM PDT by Lopeover (We Are #TRUMPSTRONG)
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As you suggested I’m re-posting this reply from the other, dormant thread.

I have no interest in defending Atkinson but I do want to expose Davis’s manipulation of the credulous.

It would be a simple matter for Atkinson to state -— YOU ARE WRONG ALL OF YOU. THE RULES HAVE BEEN IN PLACED LONG BEFORE THIS WHISTLEBLOWER CAME OUT TO ALLOW SECOND HAND INFORMATION. *THAT* would have been a good response.

Funny, that’s almost exactly what he did state.

In the official statement from the ICIG he says:

”The Disclosure of Urgent Concern form the Complainant submitted on August 12, 2019 is the same form the ICIG has had in place since May 24, 2018...

He also says:

”At the time the Complainant filed the Disclosure of Urgent Concern form with the ICIG on August 12, 2019, the ICIG followed its routine practice and provided the Complainant information, including “Background Information on ICWPA Process,” which included the following language: In order to find an urgent concern “credible,” the IC IG must be in possession of reliable, first-hand information. The IC IG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.

Finally, the WB did claim to have direct knowledge and the IG agreed.

Given that, why would they bother to change the form? They weren’t relying only on second hand information anyway.

Look closely at the statements by Davis and the Congressmen and you’ll see that they don’t dispute any of these facts and don’t provide a plausible reason for the IG to change anything for this WB when he claimed direct knowledge on the old form?

They’re just throwing dust in the air to try to confuse us, and I resent it.

19 posted on 10/07/2019 9:23:32 AM PDT by semimojo
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Davis reports that it turns out the rules weren't changed in August, they were changed in September

All irrelevant. Under the Adiminstrative Procedures Act, for a rule change there must have been notice in the Federal Register, public comment period, adjudication of the public comments and then a final rule-making. None of that was apparently done.

22 posted on 10/07/2019 9:29:52 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Here's the IC IG's CYA letter explaining his reasoning for changing the form:

https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/News/ICIG%20News/2019/September%2030%20-%20Statement%20on%20Processing%20of%20Whistleblower%20Complaints/ICIG%20Statement%20on%20Processing%20of%20Whistleblower%20Complaints.pdf

23 posted on 10/07/2019 9:32:44 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bttt.

5.56mm


49 posted on 10/07/2019 11:31:37 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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Deep State has been after President Trump from the before his presidency, and its latest trick has been in orchestrating a rules change to ensure that any deep-stater can come forward with secondhand information, as a "whistleblower.

Democrats are taking a leaf out of old KGB handbook....

51 posted on 10/07/2019 11:37:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (<img src=https://i.imgur.com/WjoG6dB.png width=500> Dems are taking a leaf out of old KGB handbooks)
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If we trace this one back ... and back ... and back... we might find some of the folks running the main cell...


52 posted on 10/07/2019 11:41:37 AM PDT by GOPJ (<img src=https://i.imgur.com/WjoG6dB.png width=500> Dems are taking a leaf out of old KGB handbooks)
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