What Americans will (and won't) give up to fight climate change (only 11.35 years left)

Fox Business ^ | 9/28/19 | James Leggate

[digger48]

Cut them with excavators that have a large thick buzzsaw type attachment, pile them up in 2 story house sized piles and stick a propane torch in them

It’d be hard to put a number on the number of trees I’ve cut and burned in 45 years.

The burn piles alone would be in the thousands

Fencerows, woods, ditches, barns, houses...

[Beagle8U]

You can’t sell the wood for pallet timber, firewood, or pulp wood?

[HotHunt]

".... Prove to us via the scientific process, that climate change even exists...."

You're wasting your time.

The climate cult says there is no debate and the science is settled already. There never was a debate and there is no such thing as "settled" science.

I say the only science involved is political science.

This whole movement has never been about the climate itself or the environment or the planet. It is about economic change.

The climate cultists want to destroy their hated capitalism and the fossil fuels that drive it.

And in its place, they want to install a socialist economic system where big government runs everything and dictates what you can or cannot do in your life.

The elites behind this cult will live lavishly with our wealth but everyone else will be poor and miserable.

Socialism is the only economic system that has never succeeded in this history of the entire planet.

When you ask these cultists what they want to "fix" the climate, all they every say is give us all of your money.

One of the tenant's of the Green New Deal being pushed by the Left now, says that it will provide a living wages for those who refuse to work. WTF?!

A sure sign that this climate change garbage is not about the climate but about socialism/communism.

The AO-Cs and Greta Thunbergs think it's real and is going to end the earth if we don't fix it right now (read: this is a stickup...empty your wallets) but the powers behind this massive scam know it means power and control over the populations of the world.

IOW, climate change is not real so don't expect to be convinced by science. Just recognize who is behind this ruse for the last 50 years and you will know it is just more liberalism and socialism on a global basis.

[Beagle8U]

Around here (south central Michigan) the trees are cut and stacked for saw-logs, trees for sawing for pallets mostly. The stumps are piled and burned.

[digger48]

No

Mostly junk trees. Mulberry, hackberry, willows, cottonwoods.

I cut firewood logs out of anything that’s firewood worthy. Lots of dead ash trees the last few years, but what’s left of the ash trees in the state are too dead and rotten for even firewood

A tiny fraction will end up with mulch producers, and any logs of value still belong to the property owner.

They really aren’t worth all that much. It once cost me more to load and haul in 10 walnut logs than I got out of them

[digger48]

I keep around 75 logs a year for myself, and I’m hooked up with a couple of guys who have firewood processors who take them

One of those guys has a machine that can cut a 24 inch thick log and split the chunks every 5 seconds

Last clearing job we did, someone else got all of the firewood logs, and the rest was run through a huge grinder and sent to the mulch producer

Only because it was in an annexed part of the nearby town and subject to new no-burn laws

[Beagle8U]

OK, you do the same as we do, except our fencerows are mostly oak, hickory, and cherry with some junk trees mixed in.

A 1/4 mile fencerow will have quite a pile of hardwood timber.

[Beagle8U]

I cut 200 trees in my woods 2 years ago and the tops are still there, I can’t find anybody that wants to cut firewood.

[Svartalfiar]

About nine in 10 Americans said they often or always turn off lights when they’re not needed, according to the poll.

Well yea, that makes cents. Less electricity used means smaller electric bill!

And more than half said they set their thermostat to 68 degrees or lower in the winter to reduce power consumption by their heaters. But only 45 percent of respondents said they often or always set the air conditioner at 76 degrees or higher in the summer to do the same. Close to a third of Americans said they hardly ever or never set their thermostat that high.

Meh. I have a gas heater so much better. But 68 is waaaay too cold. Maybe 72 in winter. But for AC in summer, 76? Really? That's the lowest I'll let the wife set it to - if it was up to me it'd be around 80 all year!

[Soul of the South]

“Prove to us via the scientific process, that climate change even exists.”

Climate change has existed since the creation of the planet due to natural forces. There have been at least five major ice ages in the earth’s history and periods where there was no ice even at the highest elevations. Only 15,000 years ago much of the planet was covered by ice.

Scientists tell us dinosaurs were wiped out by climate change resulting from the impact of a huge meteor which dramatically cooled the planet an killed many forms of plant and animal life.

The composition of the atmosphere has also changed dramatically during the planet’s history. CO2 level rose and fell long before humans appeared. Occasional massive meteor strikes have created more climate change in an instant than the human race has since the first humans stood upright and walked.

In 1883 the explosion of the volcano Krakatoa created an ash cloud that enveloped the globe and reduced global temperatures by 1.2 degrees centigrade in the year following the eruption and affected weather patterns around the planet for years. As many as 120,000 humans were killed in the explosion, the tsunami’s resulting from the explosion, and breathing the volcanic ash.

Climate change is real and climate change caused by natural forces, even single events such as volcanos, is much greater than the impact of the entire human race.

[Josa]

Ask Hollyweird women to give up hair dryers and curlers. Two HUGE energy consumers for a small appliance.

Literally sometimes my lights dim when I turn on my most powerful hair dryer

[MayflowerMadam]

My sister is on a cruise blog and the entire participation is cruise addicts. One topic is the SJW who are in a snit because the sail-away deck parties involve balloons. OMG! The fish! (I guess they’ll gag or something.) And the plastic, or whatever balloons are made of. Anyhow, Sis pointed out that incredible amounts of fossil fuels are used by the vessels, and the jet fuel used to transport the cruisers to the ports. The blog quieted down a bit after that. Such hypocrites.

[Gay State Conservative]

I'll give up MSNBC...and CNN. I just might be willing to give up the NY Times and the Washington Post as well.

Oh,and I forgot to add Brussels Sprouts.

As for my diesel...my A/C...my air travel...and my prime rib:I'll get back to you on that!

[Teacher317]

CO2 levels were once above 7000 ppm, and life thrived.

Further, ALL plant, tree, and crop species today maximize growth and photosynthesis rates between 700-1400ppm. We are at 405, and rising at 1.6 per year. The Left has yet to explain how slowly creeping towards ideal conditions for all plant life will somehow destroy the planet in 11.35 years. (Given those figures, we will enter that ideal range in about 184 years... and stay between those goal posts for another 437 years.)

One is also left to wonder why, if we are indoctrinating our kids to be so terrified of CO2, why doesn't any HS science class do the simplest experiment on this? Take 6 aquariums, place any plant species you want in all 6, have each with a different CO2 level in the tank (say a spread from 200 to 2000), and see which tank does best by the end of the semester. If it is going to kill the planet so soon, and prevent Greta from ever seeing her children reach school age, one would think it would be important enough to do basic experiments of discovery about it.

[Teacher317]

It once cost me more to load and haul in 10 walnut logs than I got out of them

I thought walnut was rather valuable. Is my brain misfiring as usual?

[Gay State Conservative]

Leonardo DiCaprio's 450 foot yacht "Topaz".

[Elsie]

. Lots of dead ash trees the last few years, but what’s left of the ash trees in the state are too dead and rotten for even firewood.

So true.

I've lost a LOT of ash; due to the Green Beetle ash borer.

If you do not take them down quickly; the wood gets soft.

If the log lays on the ground for a couple of years, only the inside half of it will still be hard enough to burn efficiently in your wood stove.

I've split mine into campfire wood and house wood.

[Elsie]

Only because it was in an annexed part of the nearby town and subject to new no-burn laws

They'll be coming for your wood stove next!

[Elsie]

Where I live now used to have a LOT of ice on top of it.

Damn paleo hunters and their mastodon cookouts melted all of it!

[digger48]

I got $10 per log for them.

Veneer quality walnut logs can sell for the thousands, but those are rare