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To: karpov

Spot on. She does not want a vote. She does not want her members going on record. For any who are not in a deep blue district it would be suicidal.


14 posted on 09/27/2019 6:07:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If SanFranNan does call for a roll call impeachment vote, there will be enormous pressure on all Dems to make it unanimous. Even the ones in marginal districts will feel the heat and will probably commit political hara-kiri rather than feel the wrath of their colleagues.


16 posted on 09/27/2019 7:00:27 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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Bill Clinton survived impeachment, even w/ a suck-up media, and femiNazis Live-To-Regret defense: "it's only sex".......
Clinton fought back tooth-and-nail, focusing on a booming economy, not that he was facing disbarment;

An arch miscreant and liar left office with stellar popularity and a plan to exploit the presidency he demeaned.
That suggests "the people" apparently liked the idea he fought back against the impeachment-mongers in the House.

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STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE-—Bill Clinton gets impeached

David Schippers was asked by his friend, Congressman Henry Hyde, to be Chief Investigative Counsel for the US House Judiciary Committee. Schippers, a lifelong Democrat, accepted and took the job in April 1998. The Hyde Committee was holding an inquiry on whether Clinton had committed impeachable offences in his handling of the Paula Jones sexual harassment suit..... during which Clinton committed perjury regarding his affair with Monica Lewinsky. The committee in December 1998 voted to impeach Clinton........a decision supported by Schippers.

On December 10, 1998, Schippers said to the committee:
“The President, then,
<><> has lied under oath in a civil deposition,
<><> he lied under oath in a criminal grand jury.
<><> he lied to the people,
<><> he lied to his Cabinet,
<><> he lied to his top aides,
<><> he lied under oath to the Congress of the United States.
"There’s no one left to lie to.”

Upon the passage of H. Res. 611, Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, by the House of Representatives on grounds of perjury to a grand jury (by a 228–206 vote) and obstruction of justice (by a 221–212 vote).

The Senate voted not to remove the impeached president.

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<><> Lewinsky recently came clean; a sitting President, Bill Clinton, suborned perjury from her;
<><> Suborning perjury is an impeachable offense;
<><> another penalty was loss of Clinton's law license.
<><> all of Clinton’s crimes happened while he was a sitting president:
<><> 47 Oral Office visits from Monica; subornation of perjury, lying under oath, hush money, etc etc etc.
<><> Clinton lied under oath about suborning Monica.
<><> Five charges against him were for obstruction of justice.
<><> Clinton had Lewinsky give Linda Tripp written instructions on how to properly perjure herself in the Willey sex matter.
<><> Bill’s pal, Vernon Jordan, arranged a $40,000-per-year cushy govt job for Lewinsky;
<><> she got the job after she signed but before she filed a falsified affidavit saying she had NOT had sex with the president.
<><> Clinton's pal, UN Amb Bill Richardson, personally visit Lewinsky at the Watergate to offer her a govt job to shut her up.
<><> Mueller's report contains the claim that Russia taped Bill Clinton's phone sex with Monica Lewinsky

27 posted on 09/28/2019 6:53:29 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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