[adorno]

Yes but there is a difference. Socialism is a deception and communism isn't.

Economically, there is no difference. The state controls everything, though, like you said, there is a pretense of ownership.

Freedom-wise, the state 'owns' you, since you can't do anything that isn't controlled and watched-over by the state.

Socialism is a system full of ideals, but once a people start down that track, the state and the people, begin to realize that in order to achieve their goals, they need to have government take over everything, and at that point, you have communism. Socialism is not any different from communism; it's only a step removed from total control, which is eventually mandated and enforced and forced on the people. Communism is the same as socialism, except that it is socialism by force. When you lose the freedoms to do as you wish, you are under the control of a communist, tyrannical system.

The only reason that socialism sounds wonderful to the young and even to the ignorant but not so young, is because of the indoctrination which they've undergone in the school systems and under constant political pressure and rhetoric. Nobody that experiences socialism would advocate it to anybody that hasn't. In effect, there is no such thing as socialism, because, it's just a short step towards communism.

[central_va]

To bad the Republican Party offers no real alternative to socialism. Globalism is NOT a good alternative to socialism.

[jmacusa]

I agree with you. People have always voted in socialism but end up shooting their way out of it.