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To: BenLurkin

They Saudis apparently can’t even detect incoming drones or shoot down incoming missiles. The US can. Israel can. They can’t even defeat a group of rebels in Yemen. So of course they don’t have their own load to lock. They are at the mercy of Iran and the goodwill of the USA and other allies.

I have to say though I’d like to see more information. It seems crazy on the surface for Iran to have done this. Not impossible, not even implausible if they thought they could hide behind their proxies. But I can’t see many angles in it for them. If they thought that there would be no retaliation they might try it in an attempt to boost the cost of their oil exports. But it’s a hell of a gambit because their oil is relatively speaking just as exposed as Saudis. They may have more defenses in place, but they couldn’t protect their assets from a determined US forces attack.

So the whole thing has be a bit worried... as to what else Iran would have up their sleeve.


20 posted on 09/16/2019 6:21:48 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

The whole thing seems a bit fishy.


21 posted on 09/16/2019 6:25:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: monkeyshine

Actually, the Saudis can detect incoming drones or cruise missiles, assuming they had an AWACS airborne at the time. I’m quite sure that we did and know exactly what was used, by whom and from whence the attack was launched.

As to why the Saudis haven’t/won’t(?) respond, a significant number of officers in the Saudi military are “members of the royal family,” none of whom are in a hurry to die. I trained quite a few of their army officers and a couple of air force officers and I got the impression that they considered their military equipment their playthings and service in the military was an obligation of sorts, not something to be taken seriously (kind of like much of British royalty). Attacking essentially undefended targets in Yemen is one thing; flying into Iranian (Russian) air defense systems is quite another.

Why would Iran do this? Iran’s economy is collapsing. Whether it will result in the dissolution of the theocracy, we’ll see, but I doubt it. Like dictators everywhere, the mullahs know that the Iranian people - and not the mullahs - will be the ones to suffer.

Iran would conduct such an attack for a few reasons, all of which they’ve done before. Iran seized foreign vessels (not US) to demonstrate that they could and to remind people of the vulnerability and strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz, knowing full well that there would be no military response - despite the fact that they committed an act of war. By so doing, they could increase international pressure on the US to lift sanctions. They conducted this attack for the very same reasons.


38 posted on 09/17/2019 6:11:59 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: monkeyshine

Actually, the Saudis can detect incoming drones or cruise missiles, assuming they had an AWACS airborne at the time. I’m quite sure that we did and know exactly what was used, by whom and from whence the attack was launched.

As to why the Saudis haven’t/won’t(?) respond, a significant number of officers in the Saudi military are “members of the royal family,” none of whom are in a hurry to die. I trained quite a few of their army officers and a couple of air force officers and I got the impression that they considered their military equipment their playthings and service in the military was an obligation of sorts, not something to be taken seriously (kind of like much of British royalty). Attacking essentially undefended targets in Yemen is one thing; flying into Iranian (Russian) air defense systems is quite another.

Why would Iran do this? Iran’s economy is collapsing. Whether it will result in the dissolution of the theocracy, we’ll see, but I doubt it. Like dictators everywhere, the mullahs know that the Iranian people - and not the mullahs - will be the ones to suffer.

Iran would conduct such an attack for a few reasons, all of which they’ve done before. Iran seized foreign vessels (not US) to demonstrate that they could and to remind people of the vulnerability and strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz, knowing full well that there would be no military response - despite the fact that they committed an act of war. By so doing, they could increase international pressure on the US to lift sanctions. They conducted this attack for the very same reasons.


40 posted on 09/17/2019 6:37:21 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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