Posted on 09/15/2019 6:31:04 PM PDT by george76
Don’t think it is a lot alike. Do you believe Crimea is originally Ukrainian and someone was moved there to displace Ukrainians?
BTW, about 1,9 million people living in Russia identify as Ukrainians. Another 10 million look Ukrainian and bear Ukrainian surnames.
New York Times is still doing reach around over Euromaiden
L8r
It’s the difference between journalism and reporting. In journalism the agenda is everything while in reporting facts are everything.
Lol, Stalin was Georgian, not Russian, therefore Russians are blameless for his crimes, right? Poor Russians, always history’s bitch.
To deny that ethnic identity politics were just as large a factor then is absurd.
Just that sort of thinking puts blame on a white straight man for everything.
On the wall that surrounds the cathedral of St. Mikhail in Kiev are pictures of the dead posted by their relatives.
The “Holodomor” was primarily enacted to get Ukraine more firmly under control, particularly the farmers. Stalin needed absolute power over “The Breadbasket of the Soviet Union “.
You are partially correct. The idea was to ruin a farmer class in a form it existed in USSR in late 1920s. The implementation was exactly the same everywhere farming was practiced. Not specifically in Ukraine.
Concurring bump...and its not like the Ukraine wasn't a willing and able partner in the Soviet Union back then either.
Thanks for the Russian point of view, which is of course ridiculous. Most of the victims were Ukrainian. Special lethal laws were instituted primarily in Soviet Ukraine.
"Although famine, caused by collectivization, raged in many parts of the Soviet Union in 1932, special and particularly lethal policies, described by Yale historian Timothy Snyder in his book Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (2010), were adopted in and largely limited to Ukraine at the end of 1932 and 1933.
In January 1933 Ukraine's borders were sealed in order to prevent Ukrainian peasants from fleeing to other republics. By the end of February 1933 approximately 190,000 Ukrainian peasants had been caught trying to flee Ukraine and were forced to return to their villages to starve."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Holodomor#Deliberate_targeting_of_Ukrainians
Lol, sure the Ukrainian nation starved itself and then purged its leadership voluntarily with no input from Moscow.
Four words: Old Negro Space Program.
Ukraine was a founding member of the USSR and at least one of the original seven members of the first Politburo in 1917 was Ukrainian.
This notion that Ukraine wasn’t a willing participant in the Bolshivik Revolution and subsequent creation/administration of the Soviet Union is absurd...and the fact it suffered from famine as a result of misguided Soviet policies does not absolve Ukraine of its role as a willing collaborator in the creation of the Communist regime responsible.
The only problem with your version is it doesn’t pay off. It is just so much better to be a victim than accomplice. And even better to blame someone else in all your sins.
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