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To: unlearner
My opinion was formed on Cruz at the New Hampshire debate, by his own mouth. His response to his own eligibility, demonstrated his will to be somebody, was not going to constrained by the original intent of the founding fathers.. conservatism means personal accountability. That is the essence of what it means to be a follower of Christ.

It is rather odd how quickly some become reduced to accusing ‘hate’ when they want to bully others into shutting-up. When I hear/read that word ‘hate’, I am reminded of what was Written that God says He ‘hates’. That is my standard.

159 posted on 09/15/2019 4:12:03 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

“My opinion was formed on Cruz at the New Hampshire debate, by his own mouth.”

Some of us, including the owner of this forum, supported Cruz way back in the Tea Party days when moderate-to-left-leaning Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison retired. GOPe tried to install a Dem-light in the seat, but the Tea Party was having none of it. Cruz won the seat due to this and has consistently done the things he promised to do.

He has some weaknesses and faults like all politicians. But he is a far cry above 90%+ that we have in Washington. Some viable conservative politicians like Cruz have formed questionable alliances with globalists because, quite frankly, unless someone is independently wealthy like Trump, they have to raise money from somewhere.

“His response to his own eligibility, demonstrated his will to be somebody, was not going to constrained by the original intent of the founding fathers.. conservatism means personal accountability.”

Cruz admitted to not thinking he was eligible earlier in his life. Those who have studied this from a Constitutional standpoint have discovered that some elements are not black and white issues as we all might want them to be. The Naturalization Act of 1790, which was enacted by some of the same founders who signed the Constitution, provides a clue as to their original intent. And under this law, someone such as Cruz would be considered a natural born citizen and eligible to be president. To be clear, Ted Cruz would have been eligible to the founders under the first naturalization act and which clarifies their original intent.

“That is the essence of what it means to be a follower of Christ.”

While I certainly want our national leaders to be followers of Christ, I think your demand is unrealistic. Do you think Kay Bailey Hutchison meets your standard? How about Beto O’Rourke? Do you think Donald Trump makes a better president than Cruz would have because he is a better Christian than Cruz?

“It is rather odd how quickly some become reduced to accusing ‘hate’ when they want to bully others into shutting-up.”

I’m not 100% certain what you mean by this, but at risk of answering something I do not fully understand, I don’t know how else to describe the hateful opposition to Cruz by some who seem obsessed with him on this forum. And I’m not for “bullying others into shutting up” but I am for common sense on a conservative forum to disallow participants from taking sides with the enemy and propagating lies.

During the 2018 election the owner of this forum forbad anyone to “badmouthing” Cruz. I’ve never seen any retraction of his directive. It was exactly a year ago:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3687890/posts

“Vanity: We need Ted Cruz in the Senate... If you’re going to badmouth Cruz, don’t do it on FR!”—Jim Robinson

He may have only intended this directive for that election, but it would behoove FReepers to honor the spirit of it anyway and disengage from circular firing squads. Cruz is not faultless, but he is far better than most of what we currently have in Washington.


164 posted on 09/15/2019 9:31:43 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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