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Close shave: Donald Trump should have followed his instincts and steered clear of John Bolton
The Star Ledger of Newark ^ | 09.12.19 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 09/13/2019 10:11:17 AM PDT by Coleus

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State Dept.: No Changes To Afghan Policy
https://www.oann.com/state-dept-no-changes-to-afghan-policy/

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21 posted on 09/13/2019 4:50:22 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: JimRed
My memory of his performance at the UN is positive. Same with Nikki Haley.

I have no animus toward Bolton. I figured Trump listens and makes his own decisions. However, Pres. alluded to Bolton saying things to foreign leaders not in alignment with his strategy overall.

Wish the coup d’etat had not managed to “F##k Flynn...” who would have been a different type as NSA advisor.

22 posted on 09/13/2019 5:00:57 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine, education and our forests.)
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Bolton was a showboater......even in Trump’s presence, sitting beside the president, Bolton screamed for attention.

It was irksome to see Bolton looking "down" at Trump in these photos,
lying in wait, plotting to visit his stupid neocon agenda on Trump.

Trump wasn't buying. Trump kindly called them "mistakes."

Bolton is a tool of the God-awful neocons. How he managed to slither into the Trump admin should be investigated.

23 posted on 09/13/2019 5:24:37 PM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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.....the cornerstone of 2020 Trump’s “America first” foreign policy was his opposition to using the US military to spread democracy around the world......

The exact description of neocon blundering that GWB fell for.

Perhaps Trump positioned Bolton in his admin to make sure Trump would know what NOT to do.

24 posted on 09/14/2019 5:21:47 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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Trump hired him because Trump seeks alternate opinions, not classic compliant “yes men.”

Bolton should have stuck to his role of another voice in Trumps ear, instead he went off the reservation and ended up fired.

You owe your boss your best judgment, then if the boss decides to do otherwise, you owe your boss ONE “But, Sir. . .” Then whatever the boss decides, you remain loyal end execute the bosses plan. If you can’t stand that, resign and quietly leave, stay away from making it all about you.

You are paid for your opinion, you “ride for the brand.” To do otherwise is self-centered and dishonest.


25 posted on 09/14/2019 7:32:46 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Alberta's Child

Post 25 for my thoughts on Trump and Bolton.


26 posted on 09/14/2019 7:34:14 AM PDT by Hulka
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Post 25. . .great thinker, you are.


27 posted on 09/14/2019 7:34:51 AM PDT by Hulka
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That's a good post.

One of the issues a leader faces in a position like the President is that many of the people surrounding him are not really advisors at all. They're lobbyists, and they come to the table with the intention of pushing an agenda rather than getting on board to support someone else's agenda.

Bolton wasn't unique in that regard, but he's probably the most prominent figure in recent history as a lobbyist whose agenda has enormous human and financial costs along with a remarkable lack of accountability on his part for any of these disastrous military campaigns.

28 posted on 09/14/2019 8:09:07 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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One possibility crossed my mind this morning: I wonder if Trump hired Bolton for the explicit purpose of firing him later at an opportune time.

Am I the only one who thinks maybe Yosemite Sam, shoot 'm up, Bolton was hired as National Security Adviser for optics at a time when some countries needed to be made to think Trump might just pull the trigger?

29 posted on 09/14/2019 8:47:46 AM PDT by Chuckster
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I don't believe that was the case at all. In fact, recent events suggest the exact opposite.

If Bolton was hired for "optics" to convince some countries that we might respond aggressively over some issue, then firing him in a public and humiliating manner would have the exact OPPOSITE effect now.

30 posted on 09/14/2019 9:24:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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I assume that Trump must have been as aware of Bolton’s interventionist views as we are. Maybe he was using Bolton as a sounding board to compare against his own instincts.


31 posted on 09/18/2019 10:27:05 AM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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“Perhaps Trump positioned Bolton in his admin to make sure Trump would know what NOT to do.”

I suspect it’s something like that. And it’s never a good idea to surround yourself with Yes Men, which Bolton certainly wasn’t.

Kudlow is another example of a choice not in harmony with Trump’s stated views.


32 posted on 09/18/2019 10:32:51 AM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Hulka

gmta


33 posted on 09/18/2019 10:33:48 AM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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