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Prague to remove statue of Soviet marshal who led Red Army forces
Reuters ^ | 9/12/2019

Posted on 09/12/2019 2:34:30 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: Gay State Conservative

> Yup,the Soviets were in Poland as liberators. Just ask them,they’ll tell you! <

I guess it’s all relative. If I were a Polish parent in 1945, I’d sure want my kids to live under Soviet rule instead of Nazi rule.

I guess it’s like being poked in one eye instead of two.


21 posted on 09/12/2019 3:28:12 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: MacNaughton

I’m now using an IPad. And I can’t figure out how to post pictures. Anyhow, there is a really nice statue of Ronald Reagan in downtown Budapest. Flowers are often left at the foot of the statue. I wish I could post a picture of it here.

As you said, the Hungarians got it right.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/ronald-reagan-statue-in-budapest


22 posted on 09/12/2019 3:34:28 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; All

The red army entered Prague after Slavs mainly Ukrainians dressed in German uniforms known as Vasoff’s army paid by the Nazis who were fighting communists kicked the SS out of Prague and surrendered it to a Czech delegation who then turned them over to the advancing Russian Communist army


23 posted on 09/12/2019 3:52:40 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting for the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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To: Alter Kaker

“The Confederates were literally traitors to their country.”

Whatever.

“Konev wasn’t a traitor.”

Nope. Just a willing agent of a government that murdered 25-30 million of its own citizens. That makes him much better.

Right?

L


24 posted on 09/12/2019 3:59:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: mosesdapoet

> Slavs mainly Ukrainians dressed in German uniforms known as Vasoff’s army paid by the Nazis who were fighting communists kicked the SS out of Prague and surrendered it to a Czech delegation <

Vlasov’s army and the Germans were good buddies until it was obvious that the Germans had lost the war. Only then did Vlasov turn on the SS. So I don’t see him as much of a hero. Your mileage may differ.


25 posted on 09/12/2019 4:13:29 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Any of America’s large cities would like to have it, some would like to put it where they removed Confederate statues, New Orleans, Memphis, Louisville for example.


26 posted on 09/12/2019 5:09:57 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: TADSLOS
"Sanitizing history is a messy business ...and a slippery slope. Just ask South Carolina and New Orleans."

A wee bit different than the American white-washing and erasing of history.

The Soviet overlords were despised in Prague! The Czechs are wonderful allies of ours, same as the Poles!

27 posted on 09/12/2019 5:42:24 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Dogbert41

When you erase history, you don’t get it back. It doesn’t matter how great your allies are or how noble their intent. That tactile reminder of history- regardless of the reasons established is lost for reflection and review.

Then your successive generations get to learn bitter lessons all over again.


28 posted on 09/12/2019 5:47:38 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: Leaning Right
Soviets vs Nazis to me is like crocodile vs lion....not a hell of a lot of difference.

On a related note...just to put things into perspective: in a book titled "Stasi",Simon Weisenthal...the famous Nazi Hunter and concentration camp survivor...is quoted as saying that in his opinion the Stasi was worse than the Gestapo.

Think about it.

29 posted on 09/12/2019 5:50:41 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: TADSLOS

The Czechs were invaded by the Soviets. Their history was thrown out. Their Christianity was thrown out. Their people who were against Communism and Stalin disappeared. All private property was stolen by the government. Why the hell they even had a Commie Fcks statue up this long is a mystery to me. Would you be talking this way about Hitler statues and photographs put up in synagogues?


30 posted on 09/12/2019 5:56:09 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Dogbert41

Europe is chock full of Nazi reminders of their brutality, including the Czech Republic and Poland. Thats a good thing. None of them are in synagogues either, to my knowledge.


31 posted on 09/12/2019 6:32:36 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: Alter Kaker
The Confederates were literally traitors to their country. Konev wasn’t a traitor.

Regardless, Konev was NOT a liberator.

32 posted on 09/12/2019 6:48:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Liberals - anathema to a free thinking society.)
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33 posted on 09/12/2019 7:09:32 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Lurker

Are you sure Confederates didn’t kill anyone?
I personally don’t care what these dimwits do with the monuments.
It is their circus but there was a book written about it.


34 posted on 09/12/2019 7:38:16 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

“Are you sure Confederates didn’t kill anyone?”

Where did I say they didn’t?

“I personally don’t care what these dimwits do with the monuments.”

Yet you felt compelled to comment anyway.

L


35 posted on 09/12/2019 7:42:40 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

I don’t get the sense of your post at #24.
Do you suggest Confederate monuments to be removed too?
I guess your response would be that you didn’t say it.


36 posted on 09/12/2019 7:47:54 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

“I don’t get the sense of your post at #24.”

Obviously.

“Do you suggest Confederate monuments to be removed too?”

No.

L


37 posted on 09/12/2019 7:55:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: TADSLOS
It’s a soft form of tyranny, no matter who performs it or what their ostensible reason is for doing it.

LOL, how do you think Charlemagne civilized the dark ages?

38 posted on 09/12/2019 8:04:26 PM PDT by aspasia
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ABBA: Winner Takes All
39 posted on 09/12/2019 8:27:00 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: TADSLOS
Europe is chock full of Nazi reminders of their brutality,

The statue of Marshal Ivan Konev is not a reminder of Russian brutality, but a statue glorifying Konev.

40 posted on 09/13/2019 6:12:00 AM PDT by tlozo
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