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Why Are America’s Three Biggest Metros Shrinking? (New York, Los Angeles and Chicago)
The Atlantic ^ | 09/10/2019 | Derek Thompson

Posted on 09/10/2019 12:54:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Is this the age of the great metropolitan exodus? In 2018, the New York City area lost more than 100,000 people to other cities and suburbs—that’s 277 people leaving every day. The Los Angeles and Chicago areas lost, respectively, 201 and 161 residents each day. It’s quite a change from the post–Great Recession period, when an urban renaissance was supposedly sweeping the country and all three metro areas were experiencing a population boomlet.

What’s going on? And where is everybody going?

To understand any metro’s migration picture, you have to know that the census keeps track of two types of movers. First, there are “domestic migrants,” or people who move from one U.S. address to another. Second, there are “international” movers, which mostly means immigrants. (Populations can also, of course, add new human beings the old-fashioned way: births. U.S. fertility rates are at record lows, and this statistic varies less from city to city.)

For many years, the New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago areas have seen more departures than arrivals among nonimmigrants. Domestic migration to these metros has been negative for most of the 21st century.

Also for many years now, America’s biggest metros have attracted high-income firms and young, highly educated workers. On the one hand, this phenomenon had led to the sparkling revitalization of many downtown areas, a golden age of fine dining, and an eerie urban selfsameness with green-plant-and-exposed-brick coffee shops and lunch-in-a-bowl restaurants. But on the other hand, this urban blossoming has also made many desirable downtown areas too expensive for non-rich people to start a family, forcing new parents to move out to the fringes of the metro, or leave entirely.

There’s little mystery about where people are heading, or why: They are mostly moving toward sun and some semblance of affordability.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicago; losangeles; ny; population
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1 posted on 09/10/2019 12:54:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Because they are turning into third world hell holes and everyone who can is leaving.


2 posted on 09/10/2019 12:56:11 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SeekAndFind

$$$


3 posted on 09/10/2019 12:56:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I read that about 10% of the black population of Chicago has moved out in the last 9 years.

When people think of Chicago, they may think of shootings and black youth gangs and social problems. But it was interesting to learn that so many black residents are moving away. Decent black people don’t want to live in Chicago, and are voting with their feet.


4 posted on 09/10/2019 12:56:59 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

Hi.

Maybe because of the crime rate? Excrement? Taxes?

Oh, I know, democrats.

5.56mm


5 posted on 09/10/2019 12:58:49 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: SeekAndFind

because they’ve become dirty, filthy HELLHOLES ... local political scum taking away your liberties ... and earnings (highest taxes.. for worst public services)

real dirty hellholes...less and less liberties despite our constitutional “protections”.... and very expensive places to try to survive, too

any sane person would get OUT of such Demonkrap hellholes, ASAP.. and many are doing exactly that!


6 posted on 09/10/2019 1:00:04 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Massive numbers of black people have moved out of Detroit since I lived in the area 30 years ago.


7 posted on 09/10/2019 1:00:41 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They can’t shoot the gangs themselves and the gangs aren’t gonna leave so....


8 posted on 09/10/2019 1:01:32 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SeekAndFind

[[[What’s going on?]]]

Left wing governance. It destroys everything it touches. This is expanding to a state phenomenon also.

A wealthy elite class
A dead or fleeing middle class
A vibrant dependent class
Breakdown of civil society
Increasing crime
High taxes with high debt
Horrendous infrastructure
Shrinking economic opportunity in a balanced form
High cost of living all around


9 posted on 09/10/2019 1:01:57 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They must all be moving here to DFW, this place is growing like crazy.


10 posted on 09/10/2019 1:02:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: faithhopecharity

Everyone ask yourselves, would YOU want to live in New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles? Ask yourselves what would it take to get you to move to those places? The job of your dreams, big dollars in some job, a paid for Manhattan co-op such as Chelsea Clinton gets to live in?

There are reasons why any city or town is growing, or declining, as the case may be.


11 posted on 09/10/2019 1:02:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: dfwgator

JP Morgan is moving one of financial planning and analysis operations from New York to Plano, Texas. They laid off hundreds here who refused to relocate.


12 posted on 09/10/2019 1:03:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: metmom

“Because they are turning into third world hell holes and everyone who can is leaving.”

>>>>>>

And more can afford to do so now, thanks to the booming Trump economy:)


13 posted on 09/10/2019 1:04:11 PM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: Dilbert San Diego

no price would suffice to make me move to any of the horrible hellhole cities (that, in most cases, were ruined by D-commie-leftist politics.. over many years of it, too...one destructive policy or act piled on top of another, year after year, and eventually you get a hellish dump)


14 posted on 09/10/2019 1:05:02 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SeekAndFind

I know I live right next to their building. It’s a pretty impressive campus they have here.


15 posted on 09/10/2019 1:05:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind
It looks like this began soon after Obama took office.

Did some of these cities get a flood of 'refugees' that overwhelmed community resources, raised taxes, and disrupted schools and neighborhoods?

16 posted on 09/10/2019 1:06:48 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: metmom
Because they are turning into third world hell holes and everyone who can is leaving.

You pretty much summed up the reason why the populations are falling. Not to mention the fact the cost of living, including taxation, have gone through the roof in all three places.

17 posted on 09/10/2019 1:08:52 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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[[[JP Morgan is moving one of financial planning and analysis operations from New York to Plano, Texas. They laid off hundreds here who refused to relocate.]]]

Once the financial industry starts bolting from NYC, this state is finished. The left has basically destroyed every other industry here. That coupled with the fracking ban has sentenced the state to economic death.

Upstate is systematically being depopulated.

Thank you Andy Cueball.


18 posted on 09/10/2019 1:10:03 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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To: metmom

Yep, and add to that the high taxes to pay for their socialist utopia and losing the state tax deduction (capped at $10K iirc). The problem is, they are moving into low tax states like Florida and Texas and bringing their liberal politics with them. I’m in nyc now, and I’m afraid by the time I am ready to retire, they’ll have ruined the areas I want to move to. Rush talked about them ruining Georgia already and others have said North Carolina and Arizona as well.


19 posted on 09/10/2019 1:11:04 PM PDT by wattsgnu
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To: headstamp 2

They will flee and destroy were ever they go..


20 posted on 09/10/2019 1:11:42 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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