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Don’t Believe These Tired Myths About Ending The 18-Year War In Afghanistan
The Federalist ^ | 09/09/2019 | Daniel DePetris

Posted on 09/09/2019 8:32:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Zalmay Khalilzad, the Trump administration’s chief negotiator with the Taliban, has endured a lot of pressure in the last week. Former U.S. ambassadors, Fox News pundits, and think tank analysts alike have denounced his draft agreement in full without knowing what is in the final document.

Afghan President Ashraf Ghani’s advisers have already expressed that the terms of the accord “need serious debate and revision.” Words such as “surrender,” “defeat,” and “abandonment” are being tossed in the air as if the United States has an obligation to serve as the Afghan government’s defenders in perpetuity.

Khalilzad and his boss, President Trump, will feel even more heat as additional details become available to the public. Trump’s cancellation on September 7 of a direct meeting between himself, the Taliban, and Afghan President Ashraf Ghani is a blinking red light that the president is increasingly experiencing second-thoughts about the entire process. So it is as good a time as any to reexamine the usual myths that will resurface in editorials and television segments over the ensuing weeks as opponents try to tank any agreement that could conclude U.S. involvement in this 18-year war.

Myth 1: The U.S. Is Signing Its Own Defeat

Career Ambassador Ryan Crocker and others have categorized a negotiated withdrawal from Afghanistan as a humiliating retreat à la Vietnam, 1973. The argument is meant to strike a chord in American policymakers who are concerned with defending their reputations in the history books and wary of being on the wrong side of the Beltway-fueled “Who lost Afghanistan?” debate.

But using the word “defeat” and “Afghanistan” in the same sentence is based on emotion rather than fact. In reality, the United States achieved its sole national security objective in the South Asian country as far back as early 2002, when a combination of U.S. air power, intelligence assets, and special operations forces in coordination with anti-Taliban militias swept the Taliban from Kabul, obliterated al-Qaeda’s terrorist infrastructure, and forced Osama Bin Laden into hiding.

To characterize withdrawal now as “losing” the war is a simplistic and inaccurate narrative, which totally loses sight of the central reason the United States used military force in Afghanistan in the first place: to punish the organization responsible for 9/11 and send a message to anyone who would even think about partnering with such a group in the future.

Myth 2: The Taliban Will Welcome Al-Qaeda Back

A core principle of the emerging deal is a Taliban commitment to prevent terrorist groups from using territory under its control to plan and launch attacks against the American people. Many people in Washington don’t buy the premise. The Taliban and al-Qaeda, they argue, are deeply linked after more than 20 years of cooperation. Moreover, the thinking goes, the Taliban is fundamentally untrustworthy, which suggests it would be the height of folly to take Taliban promises seriously.

While it is true the Taliban has no interest in negotiating peace with a government in Kabul they label as a foreign proxy, the Taliban of 2019 is not the Taliban of 2001, and the Taliban-AQ nexus has always been far more complicated and acrimonious than analysts in the West understand. The Taliban regime was never especially thrilled to have Bin Laden planning attacks from Afghan soil, particularly when the target was a superpower that could rain hell and fury on Afghanistan at will.

Mullah Mohammed Omar and his lieutenants learned this lesson the hard way. In the years since the Taliban lost its emirate, fighters and officials alike have spoken of their regret for letting Bin Laden treat Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as his personal terrorist fiefdom.

With this history in mind, one can make a persuasive case that the Taliban has an incentive to avoid committing similar mistakes and to keep their distance from al-Qaeda. Having experienced the wrath of the U.S. military and the collapse of its former government, current Taliban leadership will think twice before reverting to the prior arrangement. The Taliban knowing now what it didn’t then, can anyone say with a straight face that its leaders would make the same exact choices again?

Myth 3: If U.S. Troops Leave, Afghanistan Will Be a Terrorist Playground Again

Presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump both wanted to extricate the United States from an expensive and directionless war that has long lost its purpose. But both ended up backtracking on those campaign pledges due to poor advice from their military advisers, a belief that stronger military pressure would force the Taliban into more concessions, and a fear of what would happen in Afghanistan once Washington cut its losses.

However, assuming a post-U.S. Afghanistan would descend into a cauldron of terrorism, in which al-Qaeda and the Islamic State run wild, is a bad assumption to make — not necessarily because it is silly, but because this hypothesis discounts the actions of regional powers who have as much of a security interest in keeping terrorist groups in check as the United States does.

Russia, Pakistan, India, Iran, and the former Soviet republics in Central Asia have plenty of differences, but they agree in not wanting to see Afghanistan become a place where enemies of the state can easily plan operations against them. Believing a U.S. troop departure will translate into a boon for terrorists ignores the interests of Afghanistan’s neighbors, all of whom will work to prevent such a development.

After 18 years, thousands of casualties, and a price tag that could be as high as $1 trillion, the United States has done all it can in Afghanistan. Instead of finding excuses to stay, it’s time to come home.


Daniel R. DePetris is a columnist at the Washington Examiner and the American Conservative.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan
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1 posted on 09/09/2019 8:32:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Should have bombed them daily for months and never set foot in the country.

No one has ever tamed Afghanistan and no one ever will.


2 posted on 09/09/2019 8:35:20 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

These aren’t myths at all. We just have to suck it up and take it if we want out.


3 posted on 09/09/2019 8:36:42 AM PDT by rhombus10
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To: rhombus10

I can give $122 Trillion reasons to leave ASAP. Leave weapons for the govt and let Afghans decide who will rule their country on the battlefield if that’s what they want.


4 posted on 09/09/2019 8:41:06 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Should have bombed them daily for months and never set foot in the country.

Our only interest there should have been elimination of the poppy fields. Rather than bombs how about a good spraying of Agent Orange.

We did it to our own military, certainly we could justify doing it to poppy's and their growers.

5 posted on 09/09/2019 8:50:27 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again. Bring back ASA.)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Seeing the amount we have spent there it would be shame to just leave. I can think of one thing we can do. Offer $100,000 to any Americans who will Immigrate to Afghanistan. Advertise this in strong Democrat county’s and tell them they will be going back to the way life was thousands of years ago. We can tell them they will be doing more than any Americans to fight Climate hysteria !


6 posted on 09/09/2019 8:52:32 AM PDT by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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To: SeekAndFind

Leave the country and let them kill each other.


7 posted on 09/09/2019 8:52:54 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
"Should have bombed them daily for months and never set foot in the country."

Agreed. I don't like us going to war. But if we go to war because someone attacked us we should go to war to win. We should have had an attitude of forcing them to unconditionally surrender, not to "win over hearts and minds".

For that matter we should have done the same to Pakistan.

8 posted on 09/09/2019 8:57:48 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

NO MORE DEAD TROOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


9 posted on 09/09/2019 9:04:08 AM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The US has been at war since 12/7/1941. Americans have been dying in combat ever since that day.


10 posted on 09/09/2019 9:06:39 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: SeekAndFind
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your God like a soldier. Kipling

That is the case with the US.

11 posted on 09/09/2019 9:15:43 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: 353FMG
The US has been at war since 12/7/1941. Americans have been dying in combat ever since that day.

We haven't allowed ourselves to "win" because we've been schizoid over our actual goals. "You break it, you buy it"... Sad but true. We bought Germany, Japan, Korea, a large chunk of Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan... Maybe we should stop buying and quit feel guilty about breaking things.

12 posted on 09/09/2019 9:19:12 AM PDT by rhombus10
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To: ASA Vet
Leave now this place is run by pedophiliac homos. The head mullahs(war lords...whatever?) like to rape boys. Our service personnel have been court marshaled for preventing such rapes. These people in control there are sub human. Let them figure out how to maintain power without our help.
13 posted on 09/09/2019 9:20:25 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

AS in — We are 7th century born and bred..Go Home infidel !


14 posted on 09/09/2019 9:23:21 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nuke it from orbit... it’s the only way to be sure.


15 posted on 09/09/2019 9:26:27 AM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: SeekAndFind

Since there is no good way to get out; perhaps we just do a clean “Brexit”-like exit.

Seriously, who really wants us to stay forever, in a world where bombing them back to the stone age is not a politically-viable option?

I salute those who says do so, but in reality, we all know that’s not going to happen.

Sometimes, as Kenny Rogers once sung, “You gotta know when to fold ‘em”.


16 posted on 09/09/2019 9:28:58 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Take out the poppy fields first.


17 posted on 09/09/2019 9:31:32 AM PDT by rhombus10
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But we won’t.

Environmentalists would have a field day attacking Trump, and too many in his Admin wouldn’t want to defend this.

It’s not even based on science, but several juries of Americans have started awarding people big $$$ who say they got cancer from Round Up. In such a misguided world as this, they’ll never carpet-spray the poppy fields.

I’m not saying this is the right way to respond, but just realistic.

Just cut our loses now, and get out.


18 posted on 09/09/2019 9:48:04 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: 353FMG
Sept. 2, 1945 WW-II ended.

There were only 11 days until the start of WW-III which began with Operation Masterdom in Vietnam on September 13, 1945.

No Americans were involved.
80+ Deaths were suffered by the British, Indians, French, and Japanese.
On the Communist side the Viet Minh KIA were estimated at 2,700. In addition one Soviet "adviser," disappeared while in French custody.

19 posted on 09/09/2019 10:07:28 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again. Bring back ASA.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Outsiders are tourists in Afghanistan. Some Afghans want them to milk them for cash. When we leave they will go back to slitting each other’s throats as they have done since ancient times.


20 posted on 09/09/2019 10:13:41 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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