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Death, made in Mexico: Traffickers embrace fentanyl
Los Angeles Times ^ | Sep. 1, 2019 | Kate Linthicum

Posted on 09/08/2019 11:17:31 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: Yardstick

That comparison came to my mind as well, but their beef, if any, should be with the UK, not with the US.


41 posted on 09/08/2019 1:32:59 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-)
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To: Meatspace

> In other words, they are weak minded and unable to make rational decisions for themselves? <

For at least one moment in time, yes. And as I said previously, drug dealers wait for that moment in time.

Your mileage may vary, but I have a certain amount of sympathy for addicts. They do not set out to hurt anyone, even themselves. But their weakness sends them on a terrible downward spiral.

If I were the US drug tsar: Not prison time, but mandatory rehab for addicts. And by rehab I mean places where you work all day in a garden, then go to meetings in the evening. Nice housing, but barbed wire all around.

Oh, and one more thing. The death penalty for traffickers. Singapore has got it right on that.


42 posted on 09/08/2019 1:37:44 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: jonascord

“You want to stop it? Put a sandbagged bullet stopping wall up, out in the parking lot of every county court house, and use it, Saturday afternoons, for the instruction of adults and the amusement of the kiddies, until you run out of dealers. Lock anyone who gets a hot piss test in a 6x6x6 concrete box for 30 days. (Try to remember to feed them.)”

I like your approach. It just might work.


43 posted on 09/08/2019 1:39:42 PM PDT by semaj (We are the People)
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To: jonascord

I understand.

My brother and I were a few years apart and had different friends.

The outcomes appear to be similar.


44 posted on 09/08/2019 1:41:40 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Meatspace
Innocent Americans are being targeted by the these drug dealers of death.

Drug addicts are anything but innocent. They engage in criminal behavior by ingesting illegal substances and then they turn to a life of crime to support their illegal drug-fueled lifestyle. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for them.

45 posted on 09/08/2019 1:42:52 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: artichokegrower

As for China, I don’t care what we do to uncover fentanyl in shipments. If you get their attention, they’ll stop it.

As for Mexico, the article writes about the depravity of the Mexicans, even seemingly ordinary ones that would be stunning to folks not already familiar with third world values.

As for “Innocent Victim” addicts - nothing we do will save them from themselves, for the most part. On one hand they have an endless supply of drugs available, on the other hand they have rehab bureaucrats who simply harvest whatever monies they can, knowing full well they aren’t helping addicts, nor caring if they do. Probably not much difference in depravity between the Mexican suppliers and the rehab industry - both have a vested interest in addicts being addicts to line their pockets.

Fentanyl is so potent and the product is so inconsistent in dosage that every addict is going to eventually OD - and many of those will die.

There is nothing we as a society will do that will be effective combating this scourge. Eventually we’ll have to throw addicts in jail and hope for the best - if we don’t they’ll die on the streets. It hasn’t gotten bad enough to do that yet, but it will.


46 posted on 09/08/2019 1:53:43 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: artichokegrower

The distressing thing, to me, is how this trade in illicit fentanyl and fentanyl abuse is making it so much more difficult to obtain prescriptions for fentanyl and opioid pain relievers for those patients who have a legitimate need. I took fentanyl in the form of a transdermal patch four years ago to help control chronic and severe nerve pain associated with my cervical spinal stenosis and facet joint pain. Severe, chronic pain can drive a person to thoughts of suicide to escape the unrelenting pain, when there is no hope of relief. Fentanyl saved my life by controlling that pain until a surgical solution could be implemented. It angers me to read about suicides of patients with legitimate needs who have been denied pain-relieving drugs by doctors under threat from well-meaning but misguided regulators who act as if the legal drug itself is evil.


47 posted on 09/08/2019 2:06:55 PM PDT by SteveS52
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To: artichokegrower

“exposing the truth”?

More like exposing the half truth because an outlet like LA times will never admit that it’s the U.S. government particularily politicians and police state agencies that are to blame.

HSBC is responsible for the money laundering and they work closely with DOJ as well as cartels. HSBC gets fined, but the CEOs dont go to prison. Fentanyl is easy to conceal so a lot can get through. And if you don’t think that the seized drugs aren’t recycled via banks and middleman, you’re hopelessly naive or you get a pension from the police state.

DEA. Pump and dump of oxycodone in 2012-2017 to help fuel opioid crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/05/opioid-production-us-epidemic-drug-enforcement-administration

HSBC money laundering for US gov.
https://tragedyandhope.com/hsbc-whistleblower-john-cruz/

HSBCThe U.S. is just doing an opioid war against the people. LA times will never tell you that.


48 posted on 09/08/2019 2:06:56 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: jonascord
I’m a taxpayer. I’m not paying for their funeral.. or yours, lol.

Vice costs society. If that’s your point then I agree. Next of kin lists won’t change that.

Hyperbole is better when on target.

(Taxpayers are great people but do not quality for the proper noun category, lol.)

49 posted on 09/08/2019 2:51:15 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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To: upchuck

glad someone else feels that way. I thought the article sucked as far as composition but the op said it was ‘well written’...thought I must have missed something


50 posted on 09/08/2019 2:52:56 PM PDT by LibertyWoman
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To: coaster123
But Taxpayers should, even MUST, regain their status as the Place From Which All Blessings Flow.

Remember that line in most Thirties movies where some one is getting butt rammed by some functionary, and his first reaction is, "But I'm a Taxpayer!"?

That status is gone, like a fart in a tornado. I wonder where it went?

51 posted on 09/08/2019 3:04:30 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: dfwgator

China has not forgotten what? WE saved them from Japan and the Brits caused the Opium War.


52 posted on 09/08/2019 3:05:31 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: coaster123

“Tough guys at the DEA are brave to toss a flash bang in an infant’s crib. They’ll never perform their ostensive duties. Their mission is tyranny. Who would be surprised to learn they are in league with China and Mexico?”

>>>>>>>>>

I would be shocked, shocked!


53 posted on 09/08/2019 3:22:34 PM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: Patriot Babe

I would put nothing past them.


54 posted on 09/08/2019 3:52:33 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus mane)
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To: artichokegrower
Pushers should be shot upon conviction.

Users should be put in (newly built) "drug asylums" for rehab and kept in there until "clean". If they get full, build some more.

These stupid users really don't deserve it, but they should be allowed a second chance at a drug-free life if and when they are"cured" and then released. But they get no "third" chance. They get the same treatment as the pusher if they take up the habit again. They don't get another chance at rehab.

This is ultimately deadly for everybody and is nothing to fool around with. It is already destroying millions of individuals and their families. Huge swaths of cities and communities have become crime infested wastelands and social hazards. If it keeps up it will destroy our entire country. Those of us not pushers and users can't take the risk of ultimate destruction and be "compassionate" to continue to facilitate the wicked greed and destructive habits of those who are. This is ultimately life and death for all of us. Those ruined and dying should be "them", not us. They are the ones responsible for this disaster, not us.

Oh, and consider it an "act of war" if other countries are complicit in providing the drugs or enabling the trafficking of these poisons in our struggle for survival. It is no different than if they were invading us and murdering us by the millions for their own nefarious purposes because that is the ultimate result.

55 posted on 09/08/2019 5:10:11 PM PDT by Gritty (The Left will always hate you, so stop caring about their lies. - Kurt Schlichter)
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