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1 posted on 09/08/2019 2:23:18 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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That’s because he is a communist.

Constitution is constantly being attacked. These rights are fragile and patriots must be diligent.


47 posted on 09/08/2019 6:09:03 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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Douglas Kellner,

Or would you prefer A-Hole? The second amendment is there to protect all the other amendments from idiots like you. Idiots who want to take firearms away from those who chose to fight tyranny.


48 posted on 09/08/2019 6:15:01 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (NuRulz)
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This guy should be focusing his intellectual and brilliance where there is the biggest “bang for the buck” (pun intended). That is gun violence in the urban hood. It has been going on a lot longer than the new supposed phenomena of recent mass shooting. He should be working there to cure the disease rather than observing some symptom and doing nothing.

Regarding racism caused violence. He seems to think that this is new. Anyone recall the knock-out game? Not gun violence but racist nonetheless. Did he right a similar article during Obama administration regarding this racist induced phenomena? Nope.


49 posted on 09/08/2019 6:17:09 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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I wonder if it thinks it’s tenure or federal funding for its department is absolute?

Because I sure know what I would be doing were I in charge.


53 posted on 09/08/2019 6:31:20 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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It is absolute Celine and there are many of us who would have no problem with wiping you and your ilk out with extreme prejudice.


54 posted on 09/08/2019 6:32:40 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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What a bunch of bull S!


55 posted on 09/08/2019 7:02:47 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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from the article: “Kellner, who teaches education, Germanic languages, and gender studies at UCLA”

why should anyone listen to this goofball?

https://gseis.ucla.edu/directory/douglas-kellner/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Kellner

Recent controversies
In January 2006, Kellner was caught up in the Bruin Alumni Association’s controversial “Dirty Thirty”[4] project which listed UCLA’s most politically extreme professors. The list was compiled by a former UCLA graduate student, Andrew Jones, who had previously been fired by his mentor David Horowitz for pressuring “students to file false reports about leftists” and for stealing Horowitz’s mailing list of potential contributors to fund research for attacks on leftwing professors.[5]

The Association offered students up to $100 for tapes of lectures that show how “radicals” on the faculty are “actively proselytizing their extreme views in the classroom”.[6] Kellner, named number three; Peter McLaren, also in the School of Education and Information Studies at UCLA, topped the list at number one.

Kellner responded in print with the view that the “attack exemplified rightwing interventions within the cultural wars that have raged on campuses since the 1960s”.[7]

Political writing
Kellner’s writing style has been the subject of criticism in the scholarly field, as many of his books are fiercely political. A Publishers Weekly review of Grand Theft 2000: Media Spectacle and a Stolen Election was positive, though it concluded that the book’s end result is “somewhat formless and unfocused.” Although the review praised some aspects, notably Kellner’s highlighting of some conservative ideological inconsistencies, it lamented that Kellner’s “sporadic, underdeveloped discussion of Republicans projecting their own sins onto Democrats is particularly frustrating.”[8]

Kellner received the 2008 American Educational Studies Association (AESA) Critics’ Choice Award for his book Guys and Guns Amok: Domestic Terrorism and School Shootings from the Oklahoma City Bombing to the Virginia Tech Massacre. The book argues that school shootings and other acts of mass violence embody a crisis of out-of-control gun culture and male rage, heightened by a glorification of hypermasculinity and violence in the media.

rated # 3 of the ucla “dirty thirty”


56 posted on 09/08/2019 7:07:12 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no justice no peace)
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The STATE COURTS of the early 1800s felt it was absolute. Here are some long forgotten state court cases.

https://guncite.com/journals/senrpt/senrpt.html

“The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner.”

19th century cases
16. * Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. Rep. 52, at 54 (1878).

“If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the (p.17)penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege.”

17. * Jennings v. State, 5 Tex. Crim. App. 298, at 300-01 (1878).

“We believe that portion of the act which provides that, in case of conviction, the defendant shall forfeit to the county the weapon or weapons so found on or about his person is not within the scope of legislative authority. * * * One of his most sacred rights is that of having arms for his own defence and that of the State. This right is one of the surest safeguards of liberty and self-preservation.”

18. * Andrews v. State, 50 Tenn. 165, 8 Am. Rep. 8, at 17 (1871).

“The passage from Story (Joseph Story: Comments on the Constitution) shows clearly that this right was intended, as we have maintained in this opinion, and was guaranteed to and to be exercised and enjoyed by the citizen as such, and not by him as a soldier, or in defense solely of his political rights.”

19. * Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846).

“’The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.’ The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State.”

And the SCOTUS case that led to the Civil War..

Are Negros citizens...Dred Scott
“It would give to persons of the negro race, who are recognized as citizens in any one state of the Union, the right to enter every other state, whenever they pleased.... and it would give them full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might meet; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to KEEP AND CARRY ARMS wherever they went.”


57 posted on 09/08/2019 7:11:30 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I’ll bet the son of a bitch sees professorial tenure as absolute .


58 posted on 09/08/2019 7:21:55 AM PDT by ameribbean expat (Socialism is like a nude beach - - sounds great til you actually get there. -- David Burge.)
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Oh, the irony, if (hypothetically, for the sake of written illustration here) someone were to pull a gun on him and tell him to STFU.

Which one would he want to get rid of first? HIS 1st, or the other guy's 2nd?

Duh.

60 posted on 09/08/2019 7:29:47 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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“....calling not only for gun control but also “qualifications” to freedom of speech...”

I can agree with the qualification to freedom of speech as everyone except politicians and the media are already under being responsible for their diction by law. But there should be a goose/gander clause in the agreement that says those two aforementioned should be held to the same responsibility as those of the citizens of the country. This means that every time they get caught in a lie they can be tried in federal court for violating the first amendment they now qualify for. It will shut up the politicians and close news media sources.

As for guns, the only way to “control” them any more than is already in existence, is to remove them completely. And then the adherence to the 2nd amendment becomes a problem as that is the constitutional privilege of the states as stated in the amendment.

The states cannot over rule the constitution any more than the feds. There was an attack on this when Justice John Paul Stevens’ op-ed in the New York Times called for a repeal of the Second Amendment, which guarantees “a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” That was March of last year. But they can’t amend it and not destroy the intent of the rule. And they haven’t got the pelotas to repeal it.

rwood


62 posted on 09/08/2019 8:18:33 AM PDT by Redwood71
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A perfect example of the 40 +++ years of INDOCTRINATION instead of EDUCATION that has occurred in the American system.

Raised in a bubble-—

Never had to actually sweat & work for anything-—

Participation trophies abound-——

Could buy the sweat of others & avoid getting a callous or dirty hands——

Will be among the very first targets & goners when the shooting actually starts.

Probably also still thinks that milk comes from SAFEWAY -—ONLY !!!

I despise every single cell in this person’s body.

They think they are totally superior due to their ‘education’ & they are truly totally useless in the overall scheme of things.


64 posted on 09/08/2019 8:51:28 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Just watched the Kahn Academy 16 minute video on the second amendment. It’s worth watching.

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-government-and-civics/us-gov-the-national-constitution-center/us-gov-the-bill-of-rights-ncc/v/the-second-amendment


68 posted on 09/08/2019 9:08:34 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Don’t care what you think, prof. F with my 2nd or 1st amendment rights and I’ll show you something very absolute.


69 posted on 09/08/2019 9:20:40 AM PDT by Levy78
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The Trump Factor.. Sounds sexy.. Thanks Prof.

Institutions of hugher learning are a sham and this idiot prof provides proof willingly.

Better you go to a technical college or an unbiased institution if you can find one.


70 posted on 09/08/2019 9:54:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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This institutionally indoctrinated professor is unsurprisingly clueless that 2nd Amendment is clearly not an express delegation of power by the states for Congress to regulate non-militia-related firearms.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

In fact, note that the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had officially clarified that the states have never expressly given Congress the specific power to make peacetime penal laws, not even for murder.

"Our Constitution never conferred upon the Congress of the United States the power - sacred as life is, first as it is before all other rights which pertain to man on this side of the grave - to protect it in time of peace by the terrors of the penal code within organized states; and Congress has never attempted to do it. There never was a law upon the United States statute-book to punish the murderer for taking away in time of peace the life of the noblest, and the most unoffending, as well, of your citizens, within the limits of any State of the Union, The protection of the citizen in that respect was left to the respective States, and there the power is to-day [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column.)

It is disturbing that federal penal gun control laws seem to have started appearing in the books during the FDR Administration, FDR and the Congress at that time infamous for making laws which they had no express constitutional authority to make.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

On the other hand, I agree with professor that 1st Amendment-protected rights are not absolute. After all, the Founding States had obligated only the feds, not the states, to respect the rights that they expressly protected in the Bill of Rights (BoR).

It wasn't until the states ratified the questionable 14th Amendment that the state likewise obligated themselves to respect right expressly protected in BoR.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great!)

74 posted on 09/08/2019 11:25:48 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Douglas Kellner is a Distinguished Professor in the Departments of Education, Gender Studies, and Germanic Languages. Professor Kellner is engaged in an ongoing exploration of the disciplines of cultural studies and the philosophy of education,

OH YEAH! He's totally qualified to make determinations and limitations on Constitutional Amendments............ Gender studies? Complete bullshit!

77 posted on 09/08/2019 1:38:05 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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I don't see the 2nd Amendment as being "absolute". There are people who,I believe,should be denied access to firearms..either temporarily or permanently.

For those convicted of certain crimes...certain *types* of crimes...it should be permanent.For people with certain ailments/conditions (severe cases Parkinson's Disease,for example) it could be temporary...the condition being continuously monitored for improvement.

And for those with certain psychiatric disorders there is already a mechanism in place in all 57 states to commit a person to a psych facility...where,of course,no firearms would be allowed.On that point it's the Left who, during the 70s/80s/90s,decided to shut down 90% of the nation's psych facilities with the result that schizophrenics and psychopaths are walking the streets committing various crimes...including mass murder.

Basically,the President is *absolutely* correct to state that we don't have a gun problem...we have far too many people with serious psychiatric disorders walking the streets.

78 posted on 09/08/2019 2:20:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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"Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. ... the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."

Hubert H Humphrey

79 posted on 09/08/2019 2:25:50 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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