UCLA prof: ‘I don’t see 2nd Amendment as absolute, just like I don’t see 1st Amendment as absolute’

Campus Reform ^ | September 8, 2019 | Celine Ryan

[2ndDivisionVet]

A University of California-Los Angeles professor is calling not only for gun control but also “qualifications” to freedom of speech in order to combat mass shootings fueled by racism, a phenomenon he says has only come to light since President Donald Trump’s election.

UCLA professor Douglas Kellner states that until just two years ago, “all of the previous shootings were rather divorced from sociopolitical factors,” claiming that while mass shootings occurred in the past, they were the results of “individual crises of young men,” having to do with things such as family life or school trouble, in an interview published by the university.

Kellner asserts that the phenomenon of mass shootings motivated by racist ideas is largely isolated to instances occurring since Trump's election.

“The toxicity of gun culture has created a new factor that we have never seen before, that was a major factor in the last few shootings, and that was the election of Donald Trump, and in particular, Trump’s rhetoric [on immigrants],” Kellner said, adding “there haven’t been particular racist school shootings before, or acts of domestic terrorism.”

The professor goes on to state matter-of-factly that the El Paso shooting “was completely different from any of the other acts of domestic terrorism [or] school shootings, because it was targeting Latinos and immigrants.”

[billyboy15]

“Huh? You can shout ‘fire’ all you want - it’s the consequences of those actions that can be punished.”

I guess you are saying there is no actual law against shouting “fire”, are probably right but does that mean I can throw a hand grenade into a mall and get away with it if by some miracle no one is hurt and no property is damaged? Isn’t my throwing the grenade an expression of free speech?

[Svartalfiar]

I guess you are saying there is no actual law against shouting “fire”, are probably right but does that mean I can throw a hand grenade into a mall and get away with it if by some miracle no one is hurt and no property is damaged? Isn’t my throwing the grenade an expression of free speech?

First, I doubt you would get away with causing no property damage.. And you're conflating an inherently dangerous act with simple words.
But yes, if there's no harm caused by your actions, then why shouldn't you be allowed to do it? Throw all the grenades you want out in your nice big backyard, where no one can be hurt.