[ealgeone]

However, I think anyone at this point expecting us to dump SS or Medicare is dreaming. It just isn’t going to happen. A VERY powerful pres with full commitment of Congress could reform it so people could opt out, but that would take a near miracle.

Bush 43's second term might have been the best shot we had at doing this.

I agree with you.

I don't think there is interest in doing this from either party for different reasons. It gives up too much control and money. That's something guvment isn't going to relinquish control of.

[LS]

And remember how tiny Bush’s suggestion was: 2% of the 6% that the individual paid!!!