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To: thoughtomator

“Nobody has ever died from it. You’re every bit the hysteric as any other person drunk with the desire to wield power over others.”

Your assertion that nobody every died from it is incorrect.

These two got soup to nuts forensic autopsies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24598271.

Otherwise healthy young men. Note that they were smoking, not injecting. This is from 2014, when modern concentrates were more readily available to smoke.

THC has not been recognized/identified in practice. Death certificates will just indicate heart failure, or embolism or such. The more potent marijuana and the extremely potent concentrates were generally unavailable in decades past.

The mechanism of action is well understood - increases in heart rate and blood pressure. It has been widely demonstrated to be able to kill in animal testing. With concentrates, we will likely see effects that were less visible than with low potency marijuana. Recent concern about vaping deaths seems focused on cannabis rather than tobacco extracts.

I don’t claim/believe that death from THC is common - but it obviously can occur. The LD50 determines how much is needed to kill half of the test subjects. The amount required to kill just one out of 10,000 will be some amount less - potentially much less. Many factors can combine to make a particular individual more susceptible, at a given point in time.

Those who place blind faith in THC are the ones who are being unrealistic (hysterical perhaps). It is obviously a potent substance, subject to abuse, with a well documented ability to overdose (the existence of lethal dose).

The problem of acute death seems very rare from THC, but some do occur. People die from tylenol as well.


161 posted on 09/07/2019 12:27:25 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo
The problem of acute death seems very rare from THC, but some do occur. People die from tylenol as well.

And alcohol. What's the conservative conclusion for government policy?

168 posted on 09/07/2019 1:36:15 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: BeauBo

The big picture here is it is simply not your call to make if someone else voluntarily chooses to ingest something. A decent respect for your fellow man demands you back the f off and mind what is actually your own business and what actually does deserve your attention... something like say, your local schools sending your local schoolchildren to have story time with sex predators.

You’re not everybody’s mom nor anyone’s master, and you should not presume to assume those roles - as any such presumption leaves you in the actual role of tyrant whether that is your intention or not. The only real difference in the content of such an argument vs. that of gun-banners or hamburger-banners is the subject of debate, whereas the object of such a debate is identical.

Anyway, I highly recommend you do things like read the Declaration of Independence, you may absorb a bit of why this country was founded and why the Founders would have had no regrets about putting a bayonet through you. You might even become a genuine American along the way, if you absorb enough of it.


198 posted on 09/07/2019 10:28:09 PM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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