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What Caused Fire on M/V Conception?
Military News ^ | 5 September 2019 | Hannah Fry and

Posted on 09/05/2019 3:36:44 PM PDT by atc23

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To: _Jim

Mine was a Ryobi batter pack from Home Depot. Running on the Ryobi charger. It had charged many hours so was on “float” if they do that with these batteries.


81 posted on 09/06/2019 8:48:43 AM PDT by Rio
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To: zeestephen; atc23
I've held varying opinions on this incident but given the info that this fire likely started in the galley, I'm starting to think that the electrical wiring for the lighting INSIDE the bunk are might have shorted, got hot and spread BEHIND THE WOOD STRUCTURE OF THE BUNK CEILING.

This could SLOWLY release cyanide gas or other toxic gases from burning wiring coatings and SLOWLY contaminated the bunk area air supply rendering the sleepers unconscious.

Hopefully, the autopsies will reveal that these sleepers were unconscious prior to succumbing to smoke inhalation, burning and/or drowning. Can't bear to think these people were conscious in their final moments.

If this fire started ABOVE the bunk on the Galley floor, would not have one of the people outside the bunk area noticed this sooner? This is what makes me think this was a hidden fire INSIDE THE BUNK CEILING, or a 'sleeper fire' if you will.

82 posted on 09/06/2019 1:10:16 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: zeestephen
I know about ocean currents or 'burned beyond recognition' or 'blown to bits by propane explosion', but if they don't find the ONE AND ONLY PERSON who is missing, that is worthy of further investigation from a criminal point of view.

Seems a long shot but a criminal act of arson could be a possibility.

WHO IS MISSING, anybody know? Is it the cook, Mikey Kohls? Anyone??? Missing cook = propane tank explosion?

Curious minds want to know!

83 posted on 09/06/2019 1:54:11 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
About an hour ago, I saw a headline on MSN.com that investigators think the 34 victims were dead before they burned up.

My suspicion about arson is because the boat was burning from bow to stern BEFORE the captain and crew woke up.

I just don't see how that can happen without an explosion or some kind of fire accelerant.

84 posted on 09/06/2019 2:12:47 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
Kind of looking that way, isn't it.. I'm puzzled by the ONE missing person, hmmm. A sleeper fire that is hidden behind a ceiling generating toxic smoke before flames is a real possibility. Wiring is worthy of investigating because of it's reach throughout bunk area, gallery, etc.

This is a complicated puzzle for investigators, given the marred, soaked and/or destroyed evidence.

85 posted on 09/06/2019 2:18:03 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: zeestephen
I feel like FReeper 'BUTTERDEZILLION' during the light plane downed in Hawaii where Loretta Fuddy died.

I'M GONNA SOLVE THIS THING!

86 posted on 09/06/2019 2:19:21 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: zeestephen
AHA!

I just realized that NONE of the crew members report hearing a smoke detector. Were the smoke detectors connected to the wiring system, or run by batteries?

If the smoke detectors were connected to the wiring system and DIDN'T function as they should, THIS WOULD INDICATE THEY MIGHT HAVE FAILED BECAUSE THE WIRING SYSTEM SUPPLYING THEM WITH VOLTAGE HAD SHORTED OUT AND CAUGHT FIRE!!

Mystery solved?

87 posted on 09/06/2019 2:32:58 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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Re: butterdezillion

I recall the name but have not seen a post for a long time.

I checked the archive - the account was banned about two years ago.

I can't recall what her (his?) primary interests were, but I do recall her threads were fun to read and often approached border line nuclear war.

88 posted on 09/06/2019 2:36:46 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Butterdezillion made some interesting observations about that plane landing in the ocean where Loretta Fuddy inexplicably died AFTER surviving the ordeal.


89 posted on 09/06/2019 2:43:38 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I’m thinking that smoke alarms are required to run on batteries - specifically because of the risk of a general power failure.

But - I do not know that for certain.


90 posted on 09/06/2019 2:44:05 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

I thought that too, but salty ocean air and batteries.. Do they get along well together? I would think not.


91 posted on 09/06/2019 2:45:42 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: zeestephen

You’re off your meds


92 posted on 09/06/2019 5:00:38 PM PDT by atc23
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To: ifinnegan; MinuteGal

“Sorry, but, it’s what it is.
They have one job and one job only. The safety of the passengers.”

You must have missed what the crew said about what happened and how they tried desperately to get down to where the passengers were but all paths were blocked by flames and they were beaten back by those flames. It was so hot from those flames coming up from down below that they had to jump in the water or fry.

You sir, are a big jerk. And cruel to boot. You are looking for a scapegoat and you are wrong to do so, very wrong.


93 posted on 09/06/2019 7:38:45 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Trump 2020, 2024, 2028, ad infinitum)
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To: flaglady47

Sorry but they didn’t even have working smoke alarms.

Someone is going to prison.

It’s their business.


94 posted on 09/06/2019 10:12:50 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Re: You’re off your meds

Wrong.

The investigators have made statements about every question I asked:

Screaming - No
Asphyxiated - Probably
Explosions - No
Smoke Alarms - Did not go off
Extent of Fire - Bow to stern when the crew woke up

95 posted on 09/07/2019 2:21:02 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: ifinnegan

“Someone is going to prison.
It’s their business.”

Wanna bet? You’ll lose.


96 posted on 09/08/2019 12:13:16 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Trump 2020, 2024, 2028, ad infinitum)
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To: flaglady47

You sound pretty happy.


97 posted on 09/08/2019 12:31:50 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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