[Ancesthntr]

“How about if the potential “listee” is notified before inclusion on watch list and given reasons why he is being listed?”

“That might require revealing sources and methods and expose informants or undercover agents.”

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Usurper, you are a perfect example of someone who would trade your liberties for the illusion of security, and wind up with neither liberty nor security. Does not the ability to confront your accuser(s) and defend the deprivation of your rights mean ANYTHING to you? Would YOU like to be placed on the no-fly list and not even know it until you were denied the ability to fly, not know why you were placed on the list, and have no expeditious way to appeal it and correct any error(s)?

If you’re OK with that, Cuba and Venezuela have that, and probably a nicer climate than where you’re living now; but please don’t be part of the statists who wish to gradually deprive us of all of our meaningful rights.

[billyboy15]

“Would YOU like to be placed on the no-fly list and not even know it until you were denied the ability to fly, not know why you were placed on the list, and have no expeditious way to appeal it and correct any error(s)?”

Before you open your mouth and insert your foot(again), why not read the post after the one you responded to in which I addressed what you are saying?

[usurper]

Does not the ability to confront your accuser(s) and defend the deprivation of your rights mean ANYTHING to you?

Of course it does. But what is the point of gathering intelligence on jihadies if we can't use it. It would just be another story where (after the fact) it comes out the the feds knew all about the perp and failed to act to prevent another attack.

What these jihad lawyers really want is full disclosure of out investigatory methods so they can shut them down.

But what the heck why not fly with a bunch of suspected jihadies on your plan at least that is what this judge thinks.