Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: grasshopper2

“Shamefully getting married at a very young age and having large families without any means of support and without any intention of looking for a job. The healthy, able-bodied young fathers will spend their days leisurely studying ancient religious texts while their wives struggle with baby after baby collecting welfare - section 8, food stamps, medicaid, every benefit available...”

“(5) Shamefully keeping their young males ignorant by failing to teach them any useful trade or providing any academic preparation for a profession.

(6) Shamefully failing to properly teach their young males the English language.”

So they’re all dirt poor welfare recipients, but

“(1) Aggressively soliciting people to sell their homes to them...”

“Once they own some property on a block they deliberately rent to bad tenants with the intent of lowering property values so they scoop up the rest of the houses on the block after the original homeowners panic and sell out. Once they own all the houses on the block they kick out the bad tenants and move themselves in.”

“...so they can build high-density housing...”

So they are able to get a mortgage commitment underwritten and plonk down earnest money, not once, but for all the houses on the block and build high-density housing, too. And what’s more keep some Hispanics around as servants? Not bad for welfare recipients.

If Hasidim were “ethnically cleansing” Rockland County, they’re taking their time about it and doing a poor job. Kiryas Joel, Monroe, Monsey, New Square and Spring Valley have had a Hasidic population for a long time, and yet there are still Gentiles about, some like you with interesting notions about Hasidic society.

Young men do study in “Kolel” for the first couple of years after marriage, with the help of in-laws and working wives. But as soon as the children start getting numerous enough to be expensive, they get work, either with the help of family, or vocational training of some sort. They do manage to pick up English, and to prosper. I’ve worked with a Hasidic real estate developer (no high-density houses upstate, but nice new brownstones in Brooklyn), known a Hasid who owns a chain of dry cleaning stores, and turns the profits of one over to charitable purposes, and there are more than a few contractors, diamond merchants and traders.

Myself, I was born to a secular left-wing family, and later became persuaded to join the Chabad movement, and after getting a two-year degree worked as a paralegal for eighteen years, then in the food industry (dairy farms, then deli in Winn Dixie), before emigrating to Israel, where I work as a sofer stam (scribe; caligrapher) and sometimes a freelance writer.

I’m sorry you don’t like your Chassidic neighbors. I make no apologies for their quirks, which vary, while their considerable virtues are not hard to discover, either, once you get past the surface.

But there is nothing shameful about having children. They eventually grow up and move out, and they have to move somewhere. Both the Chassidim and the non-Chassidim in Rockland need to put their heads together and plan this in an orderly fashion. All this pushing back and forth is avoidable and not at all desirable. Ghetto-ization in Brooklyn is not an answer either.


36 posted on 09/10/2019 4:50:23 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies ]


To: Eleutheria5
"But there is nothing shameful about having children." It *is* shameful to get married and have children with the deliberate intent of being a burden on society.

They have no shame about sucking off the government's teat as a lifestyle choice.

The Hasidic town you mention, Kiryas Joel, has the distinction of being the poorest place in America. According to the New York Times, 50% of the residents receive food stamps, and one-third are on Medicaid and get federal vouchers to help pay their housing costs.

"Most residents, raised as Yiddish speakers, do not speak much English. And most men devote themselves to Torah and Talmud studies rather than academic training — only 39 percent of the residents are high school graduates, and less than 5 percent have a bachelor’s degree. Several hundred adults study full time at religious institutions."

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/nyregion/kiryas-joel-a-village-with-the-numbers-not-the-image-of-the-poorest-place.html

The Hasidic communities are parasites. It's not sustainable. If they paid their own way and kept to themselves like the Amish no one would have a problem. Instead, they take over towns and behave very badly. Corruption is rampant.

You mention that some Hasids are successful. Even the successful ones try to get on the government teat. Two years ago, 26 people were convicted of lying to the government about their income in order to fraudulently receive welfare. Two of the couples had income over 1 million dollars. Source: https://www.nj.com/ocean/2017/07/meet_the_26_charged_in_lakewood_fraud_probe_who_th.html

Americans need to learn about how these Hasidic communities are taking advantage of our generosity and put pressure on the federal, state and local governments to stamp out the abuse.

We need systemic change to stop this abuse of our welfare programs.

And,the leaders of these communities need to stop encouraging their young men to be dead-beat dads.

37 posted on 09/10/2019 12:16:21 PM PDT by grasshopper2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson