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To: DoodleDawg

The guy’s actions preceding the event tell me that he wasn’t the type who should have been carrying. Way too temperamental and impulsive. The victim, however, tempted fate by physically confronting the guy when clearly he was only running his yap. At least that’s the way I perceive it. Nobody won.


2 posted on 08/26/2019 3:54:08 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Buffington post does nothing to help race relations i this country. A WHITE MAN KILLED A BLACK MAN,

talk about dog whistles, code words and secret sign ..sheese.

15 posted on 08/26/2019 4:26:51 AM PDT by Ikeon (You can't be nice to them, you can't shoot them, you cant fix them- stupid is just stupid)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes - I say this to both men.


17 posted on 08/26/2019 4:47:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

An interesting twist on the phrase, “an armed society is a polite society”. If the victim had known the perp was carrying, would he have shoved him?


18 posted on 08/26/2019 4:48:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Agree 110%. Virginia does not have a “stand your ground” law. To carry conceal the Commonwealth of Virginia hammers in the following to justify deadly force:
1. You’re an innocent bystander. In other words, you didn’t instigate or escalate the confrontation. In this case, the guy clearly instigated the confrontation.
2. You took reasonable effort to avoid confrontation. In other words, you called police and retreated to a safe spot. The guy certainly didn’t call the police and continued to escalate the confrontation.
3. If the person still confronts you continue to retreat and only when no longer able to back away may you use deadly force. The guy justified his action using “stand your ground”, but when put in context with #1 and #2 no surprise on the final verdict.


34 posted on 08/26/2019 5:25:49 AM PDT by baltoga
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

The victim, however, tempted fate by physically confronting the guy when clearly he was only running his yap.


And that’s also a good bit of why it was manslaughter, and not murder. Both over-reacted. The shooter over-reacted twice.


38 posted on 08/26/2019 5:37:52 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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