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To: Zionist Conspirator; Eleutheria5

The subject of the article and this thread is the Jew-hating world especially the Left, and my statement is that the Jews seem to fail to recognize their enemies (but at least many in Israel recognize America as their friend).

My first post here was about the Jews being confused about who their friends are because so many are Democrats, the Party that hates Israel and them. The history of Israel for the last 2500 years has been one of wandering and wondering, ostensibly looking for their Messiah, many having long since given up. Eleutheria5 took me up on what I said.

Yet wandering and wondering Jews like yourself apparently, accuse people like me of irrational belief and then when I engage with you, people like Eleutheria5 bail and accuse me of of hijacking the thread although he is the perp.

I don’t mind discussing and debating this stuff in the forum of ideas which is what FR is, - I enjoy and invite such - but I’m only willing to do that with good-faith participants, not snipers who once unable to answer, fall back into Leftist-style ad personam and non-sequiturs.

Since you copied me on your post about our (my) belief being irrational, I challenge you to support that assertion in this FR forum of ideas in a good-faith, rational discussion/debate.


24 posted on 08/25/2019 9:04:11 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim 0216

And then you had to make it about Jesus, whom you are sure will be the Messiah we’ve been waiting for. I say that the future nature of the End of Days is a moot point, and the most we can do is place bets. I ante up five dollars, because that’s about all I can cover. You then start quoting the NT as if that’s probative of your assertions. I point out that I don’t accept the NT as probative of anything, since I don’t accept it as part of the Bible, that I have faith, but in a different system of faith. At no point did I “challenge” your faith. You say your faith is based on Biblical truths and ask me what my faith is based on. I answer that it’s based on the Bible, Talmud, Kaballah, Chassidus... No “challenge” to your system of faith, just a different system. Disagreement is not any form of challenge, except to very insecure people. Then I ask you to please take the theological discussion elsewhere, and you call it “chickening out” (Is it possible that you are mistaken and it’s really turning the other cheek?).

That is the sum total of our discussion, except that you will not take it elsewhere. You insist on hijacking this thread, only you call it a “debate,” and I’m not interested in a theological debate here for the reasons I’ve already stated. So go elsewhere. Start a thread and invite anyone you want to debate with you. I’m not interested in doing it here. In fact, I’m not interested in debating religions. Nachmanides did that in Spain in the 13th Century, and he was forced to run for his life as a result, for publishing the substance of the debate(now buried, ironically, somewhere near the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hevron, possibly on the 7th Step). So I’m not interested. Deal with it.


25 posted on 08/25/2019 9:28:41 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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