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To: HamiltonJay

Oh and it evidently reaches well into Ohio.

Not biased, just relating experiences. Look, I live in central MD and was raised here, I lived in New England working there, and my dad was basically a New Englander. His family in Maine of 5 brothers and a sister, visited several times. One bro moved only down to MA and his Minn wife has the upper Midwest/Canadian accent close to my other Canadian aunt who still lives in ME. Also trip to WI for their relations and my mom’s, and none of these people or the locals struck me as using bad grammar. The blood aunt lives in AZ for umpteen decades and out there with her 4 kids never noticed much special beyond aunts manner of speaking. Another bro moved to Portland OR and his kids and the people there, nothing much to notice. My brother moved to L.A. 40 years ago and again, nothing special out there beyond his wife’s Filipina accents with their kids and the Valley Girl thing. I’ve been around the south plenty with many vacations and it’s not very shocking compared to their depiction in movies.

I’d like to see your examples of bad grammar in other regions because I just can’t think of it, and I have a strong affinity for anything related to sound.


39 posted on 08/26/2019 9:34:39 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The implied (dropped) verb BE, or mis-conjugation of it, is something I have been exposed to my entire life.... the implied (dropping of it) is more prevalent in Appalachia in the US in my experience.. and the mis-conjugation of it is common pretty much EVERYWHERE, particularly in area of lower socioeconomics. This isn’t something that is distinct to the US, as it is known in the UK as well. Though better education there has lessened its use over the centuries.

Its not a lack of education, teachers in these areas correct their english and teach the forms and use of “be”, but in daily talk, it is just implied and understood.

If you want me to mock this region’s language, believe me I can list you out numerous things I find amusing here, and words I have never heard anywhere else I have ever traveled or lived... The lack of enunciation of vowels in certain words I find far more entertaining that the implied “be”..

Like pronouncing soft “a” as “or” in some words:
worsh = wash

or the substitution of the soft “e” sound for the soft “o” sound:

keller = color.

or the substitution of the “ah” sound for the “ow” sound:

dahntahn = downtown

Then there were words I had never heard used anywhere else...

redd up = tidied up, picked up, cleaned up

Or the dropping of “er” in some words:

slippy for “slippery” ie : Its slippy out.

However, probably one of my favorite is hearing grown adults order “dippy” eggs

Dippy = over easy IE: I’d like two dippy eggs, toast and bacon.

The following is a completely valid sentence:

Yinz need to redd up da house n’at before we can go dahntahn.

There is one other thing about Pittsburgh area at least that I noticed when I moved away for a while.... 1 its probably the only place you will hear Donny Iris on the radio semi regularly... and 2 outside of the Detroit/Michigan area, you will not hear Bob Seger on the radio more often anywhere else.


40 posted on 08/26/2019 9:54:23 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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