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1 posted on 08/19/2019 8:24:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 08/19/2019 8:32:01 AM PDT by bitt (Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul - Douglas MacArthur)
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We need to be firm with China on Hong Kong, but quiet. Public face is very important in Asia, and in China in particular. We should avoid publicly saying what we would do, forcing the Chinese to defend their face by defying us. Rather, we should let them know quietly what actions we would take, and be prepared to carry them out. Speak softly and carry a big stick.


3 posted on 08/19/2019 8:34:29 AM PDT by Petrosius
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If there is any cap for immigration impacting Hong Kong and not the rest of China we should get rid of it for a set period of time in order to enable anyone who wants out to be able to get out. We should screen with an eye toward avoiding Chinese military infiltration. I dont think streamlining is the answer though since China presents a huge threat to our security. This is a special situation where these guys will be hunted like dogs if we don’t help.


5 posted on 08/19/2019 8:45:42 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Why does Harvard invest in developing world land grabs that harm indigenous people, then yell at us?)
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Self rule or independence will never happen in Hong Kong while the successors of the Butchers of Beijing are in power.

The West was able to spend the USSR into oblivion. We won't be able to do that with China.

The world's advanced nations (the US,Europe,Japan,etc) made a huge,huge,*huge* mistake when they opened their ports to Chinese made goods in the 80s and 90s.

6 posted on 08/19/2019 8:51:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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China rules Hong Kong, and will.

At best Hong Kong can have some autonomy.

The original issue was where trials must take place.

The US Constitution requires a trial in a place where the alleged crime occurred. That is sound judicial policy and China should follow it. Witnesses are most likely to be available and its generally the most convenient place for the person charged with a crime.


8 posted on 08/19/2019 9:01:49 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I think something rotten is going on.

Chinese can be very vocal, but destroying Chinese property in their own city isn’t normal Chinese behavior.

I sense a more modern Reichstag fire moment.

Governments are always looking for excuses to seize more power.


9 posted on 08/19/2019 9:06:06 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Has the author met a tar-baby they didn’t like?
There are few if any good options, here, and too much posturing can lead to people in Hong Kong having false confidence that will end up in massacres. We are not going to war over the rights of Hong Kong’s citizens, no matter what China does. Trump would do well to resist the usual political pressure to appear to be doing something. We can call for calm and compromise, voice expectations for a non-violent solution, maybe try to get the UN involved (not the US) in mediation efforts.


10 posted on 08/19/2019 9:14:17 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Bring back the tariffs? Why not? Kill two birds with one stone. Silence the fake patriots on both sides of the aisle that put commerce with China ahead of the best interests of their country.


13 posted on 08/19/2019 3:09:08 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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