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To: familyop
If law enforcement is "allowed" to have an AR-15 (for example), then citizens must be allowed to own an AR-15.

The 2nd Amendment is a hedge against a tyrannical government.

"Law enforcement" includes local police, local sheriff, state troopers, federal marshals, fbi, etc.

Has nothing to do with the military, who has nuclear weapons and fast attack subs. Your local law enforcement doesn't have either of those.

Whatever law enforcement has, the citizens must be able to own.

4 posted on 08/16/2019 11:59:15 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Here's some information about our Second Amendment. It's an easy and interesting read.

THE HISTORY OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/897090/posts

Judge Bork on the 2nd Amendment & Gun Control [Free Republic]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1096792/posts

The Six Things Americans Should Know About the Second Amendment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005558/posts

To all Gun Control Advocates: The “Militia” is not what you think it is.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823023/posts

2nd: The founders meant what they wrote about arms
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1659979/posts

8 posted on 08/17/2019 1:08:47 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: rxsid

You are incorrect. The citizens of this country created a government, and cannot give powers to the government that they do not possess them selves. The Second amendment was put in place specifically so that if the government that had just been created with the constitution somehow became tyrannical, despite the safeguards in that document, that the people would have in their hands the means with which to overthrow it in the same manner as the drafters and ratifiers of the Second Amendment had just overthrown the English government.

Additionally, if you look at article 1 section 8, among the powers given to the Congress is to issue Letters if Marque and Reprisal. This is congressional authorization to civilians vto attack enemy shipping and other forces during wartime when the (purposely small) standing army and navy didn’t have sufficient forces on hand to do the job. How, pray tell, does one take on enemy forces without having equivalent weaponry? Note that the Continental Congress issued many Letters, as did Congress during the War of 1812 and afterwards, so the power is not unused. Just as John Hancock has cannon-armed ships he used to fight the British Navy, so today should individuals have the ability to have similar modern weapons.


20 posted on 08/17/2019 8:41:57 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: rxsid
Has nothing to do with the military, who has nuclear weapons and fast attack subs. Your local law enforcement doesn't have either of those.

That is a highly flawed argument. Your local law enforcement has light and medium tactical gun trucks, some have armored personnel carriers, and I bet there's a couple with tanks. Your local LE probably has several fully automatic weapons. But your local law enforcement also isn't a dictatorial government that can murder tens of millions of its citizens. The 2A isn't directed at just local law enforcement, it' s supposed to prevent any level of government from infringing on your right to keep and bear arms. At all.

Also, back in these days, what was the most destructive type of arms? Cannon. Guess who owned most of he cannon? Not the government - it was private companies that had cannon on their ships. The early US government had maybe 50 worships for the Revolutionary War. Privateers were ever 1500. What do you think letters of marque are used for?
24 posted on 08/17/2019 9:50:37 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: rxsid

“If law enforcement is “allowed” to have an AR-15 (for example), then citizens must be allowed to own an AR-15.
The 2nd Amendment is a hedge against a tyrannical government.

“Law enforcement” includes local police, local sheriff, state troopers, federal marshals, fbi, etc.

Has nothing to do with the military, who has nuclear weapons and fast attack subs. Your local law enforcement doesn’t have either of those.

Whatever law enforcement has, the citizens must be able to own.”

It wasn’t town constables that we fought in the Revolutionary War. In the War for Independence, the average citizen could be as well armed as the average British Redcoat was.


42 posted on 08/20/2019 7:50:55 PM PDT by Armscor38
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