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when Saint David says it:

11 Nov 2016: ScienceAlert: David Attenborough Has an Important Warning About Human Population
by JOSH HRALA
“We are a plague on Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde,” Attenborough told Radio Times back in 2013...
Attenborough is also a supporter of the UK-based charity Population Matter...

Attenborough doesn’t shy away from adding a bit more controversy to an already difficult issue by saying that famine-stricken countries like Ethiopia have a population problem that is contributing to famine.
“We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there,” he told The Telegraph.
“They can’t support themselves - and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case. Until humanity manages to sort itself out and get a coordinated view about the planet, it’s going to get worse and worse.”

It’s not clear what his plan for the future would entail in developing countries, but his message is simple: humans need to chill out a bit because it’s getting crowded here...
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-time-david-attenborough-said-humans-are-a-plague

when Saint Hillary says it:

1 Nov 2014: The Atlantic: The Climate-Change Solution No One Will Talk About
Studies have shown that improved access to birth control can be a valuable tool in slowing global warming, but many politicians are afraid to broach the subject.
by Jason Plautz and National Journal
Just look at what happened to Hillary Clinton in 2009, when as Secretary of State she acknowledged the overpopulation issue during a discussion with Indian environment minister Jairam Ramesh. Clinton praised another panelist for noting “that it’s rather odd to talk about climate change and what we must do to stop and prevent the ill effects without talking about population and family planning.”...
Right-wing critics pounced, with the Alex Jones-run Info Wars calling her comments “Malthusian.”...

The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has noted the burden of “population pressures” on natural resources, while separately looking at the health impact of family planning...
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/11/the-climate-change-solution-no-one-will-talk-about/382197/


50 posted on 08/05/2019 5:35:21 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

on the other hand - from a conservative viewpoint:

11 May 2017: Heartland.org: Research & Commentary: Climate Change Is Not a Valid Argument for Population Control
By Tim Benson
Taking Coercive Measures To Bring Down Global Population A Mainstream Idea In The World Of Climate Alarmism
Over the past few years, outlets such as NPR, The Atlantic Monthly, The Huffington Post, and The Guardian have written articles with headlines like “Should We Be Having Kids in the Age of Climate Change?,” “The Climate Change Solution No One Will Talk About,” “Voluntary Birth Control Is a Climate Change Solution Nobody Wants to Talk About,” and “Though Climate Change is a Crisis, the Population Threat is Even Worse.”

The NPR story highlights a 2016 paper by philosophers and bioethicists at Georgetown University and Johns Hopkins University, titled Population Engineering and the Fight against Climate Change, which argues in favor of penalizing families for having children via a progressive tax that would increase with each child.

In his new Netflix series, Bill Nye Saves the World, the show’s eponymous host asked a group of panelists, “So, should we have policies that penalize people for having extra kids in the developed world?”...

A Long History of False Predictions of Doom
Doomsday predictions about overpopulation stretch back to Thomas Malthus’ 1798 book, An Essay on the Principle of Population...READ ON
https://www.heartland.org/publications-resources/publications/research—commentary-climate-change-is-not-a-valid-argument-for-population-control

plent to read here:

11 Feb: WUWT: Was climate change alarmism always about fears of overpopulation?
by Pierre Desrochers and Joanna Szurmak
Numerous population control advocates have linked anthropogenic climate change to population growth, or tried to revive interest in invoking anthropogenic climate change as the key negative outcome of continued economic growth linked to, foremost among causes, an increasing population. One pioneer of establishing and cultivating population growth – anthropogenic climate change linkage was the “Population Bomber” himself, Paul Ehrlich, who during a conference in 1968 identified anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions as a “serious limiting factor” to economic growth. By the 1970s, Ehrlich, his wife Anne and his collaborator John Holdren raised fears that carbon dioxide “produced by combustion of fossil fuels in quantities too large to contain” may “already be influencing climate” and, as such, constituted one of the “gravest threats to human well-being. . . [i.e.] the loss of natural services now provided by biogeochemical processes.”...

We argue that no specific trigger events were necessary to spark the anxieties of these activists as they already espoused a neo-Malthusian eco-catastrophist mindset that is part of a wider pessimist perspective...

It is indeed remarkably easy to find influential climate bureaucrats and scientists who will either admit this much or else acknowledge their neo-Malthusian pessimist stance rooted in enforcing limits to human (population) growth.
Maurice Strong (1929–2015), who was described by business journalist Peter Foster as “[m]ore than any other individual. . . responsible for promoting the [UN] climate agenda,” is the most obvious case in point...

Professor Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, the director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research and an adviser to the encyclical Laudato Si, has long been on the record as estimating the carrying capacity of the planet at “below 1 billion people.”...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/02/11/was-climate-change-alarmism-always-about-fears-of-overpopulation/


51 posted on 08/05/2019 5:37:58 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

Now those are the real inciters of violence and murder (oops I meant feticide).


95 posted on 08/05/2019 9:04:00 PM PDT by rfp1234 (NBC: Putting the TURD in Saturday.)
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