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To: Reily; BroJoeK

Reily, was your intent to talk behind my back, or did you forget to ping me?

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>>Kalamata continues to demonstrate the difference between dogma & science. He also continues to show that he is angry that dogma is not science and science is not dogma.

You have it backwards, Reily. I was an evolutionist well into my 60’s, at which time I took a look at the evidence for the first time. Science is about observable evidence, not dogma and story-telling like we get from evolutionists.

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>>He also shows a complete misunderstanding of the word “theory”.

Quit lying.

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>>Theories come & go as we observe more facts. However when I say “come & go” its doesn’t mean they disappear the are 999/1000 subsumed into a larger explanation/theory. For example I have a book on my shelf called Classical Theory of Electromagnetics (I include electrodynamics in electromagnetics.). Is it right or wrong? Is it dogma or science? Well this book does not include relativistic electromagnetics. I have other books that do. The classical theory has been subsumed into the theory that takes into account relativity. Something will come along and subsume it into a larger theory. (Einstein thought so!) You can do the same with mechanics. Aristotelian mechanics was subsumed by Galilean mechanics which was subsumed by Newtonian (Classical Mechanics) which was subsumed by Einstein’s relativity. There are a myriad of other science examples.”

Leave it to an evolutionist to conflate empirical science, such as mechanics, with historical “science”, such as evolutionism. That is deceitful.

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>>If the case is closed, the explanation complete and their nothing in the explanation/theory that allows it to be subsumed into a larger theory then it isn’t science. (Its Global Warning!). I mean “dogma”!

Add evolutionism to that list, following global warming.

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>>It has been observed! You don’t accept the interpretations of the observations. Which is fine, you’re perfectly free to do so. But you can’t honestly say it hasn’t been observed!

I can honestly say evolution has never been observed. I can also honestly say that you can present absolutely NO scientific evidence in support of evolution.

Mr. Kalamata


247 posted on 08/17/2019 7:43:38 AM PDT by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata

You are consistent!
Please continue to be Exhibit A - “The Man that Wants Science to be Dogma!”

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Reily, was your intent to talk behind my back, or did you forget to ping me?
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Paranoid much?
Since its an open forum and postings are seen by many how can I be “talking behind your back”? After all you’ve addressed me in postings where I never initiated the conversation.

Please look up the word “theory”.
Maybe you do understand, you just haven’t demonstrated it.
Theory is an explanation that best fits the evidence. The evidence changes the theory changes or is eventually subsumed into a greater explanation or theory. That’s science all else is dogma.

Empirical Science
“.. The scientific method begins with scientists forming questions, or hypotheses, and then acquiring the knowledge through observations and experiments to either support or disprove a specific theory. …”

And yes some scientists are horrible at this! They’re human beings subject to all the foibles of all humans!

Even then there are useful things embedded in some theories that aren’t observable!

It seems your understanding of the word empirical science is “shaky” also. “Historical science” - what’s that? Is it Aristotelian mechanics, Galen’s Medical Theory, etc. That’s the only thing I can think of that qualifies.

It all comes back to “evidence” at what you accept vs what I, BroJoK and others accept. All science is linked if BroJoK, I and others were as wrong as you say we are, we would not be pounding on computers talking via the Internet.

There are always other viewpoints & interpretations to anything. If you require others to only see things only your way, we’re back to dogma! So again your mad that science isn’t dogma & dogma is isn’t science.

Calling me an evolutionist is inaccurate at least in the manner you seem to mean it.

By the way I am perfectly happy if we ignore each other! However I will continue to post on this issue if I think I have something to say.


249 posted on 08/17/2019 9:03:08 AM PDT by Reily
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