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Valley of the Dolls
Steyn Online ^ | 3 Aug 2019 | Kathy Shaidle

Posted on 08/03/2019 8:01:26 PM PDT by Rummyfan

I can't sing, dance or act. I'm in awe of anyone who can, particularly performers who leave everything on stage, who reportedly lose five pounds every night during their Vegas residency, who have zero vanity or inhibitions — who commit.

"They make it look easy" is a cliché of a compliment. I most admire those who make it look hard.

That's why I insist that Gene Kelly was a better dancer than Fred Astaire.

And that Patty Duke deserved an Oscar nomination for Valley of the Dolls (1967).

This film adaptation of Jacqueline Susann's mega-blockbuster novel about three young women striving to make it in show biz is always lazily described as "so bad it's good." I reject this premise, just as I never qualify some of my favorite films as "guilty pleasures." If you've watched Cobra or Con Air with glee, and can't wait to do it again, then by definition that movie cannot be "bad." (Would you do the same thing with a restaurant?)

True, Valley of the Dolls doesn't look as fabulous as it should. The material and milieu demand a retina-melting Sirkian palette, but we're stuck with gauzy pastels and beige. Lots. Of. Beige.

Others complain about the Previns' pastiche songs, or the goofy ending, and that I'll grant: Why, after saying goodbye to Lyle forever, does Anne dramatically exit her own damn house, then saunter in a satori-like state through thick New England snow... wearing flats?

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1 posted on 08/03/2019 8:01:26 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

I guess I will have to watch it some day.


2 posted on 08/03/2019 8:07:00 PM PDT by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all. And send her back!)
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To: Rummyfan
"...wearing flats"

What is a flat?

Alex; What is flats.

3 posted on 08/03/2019 8:10:33 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: dynachrome
It's a bit hard to watch, though Sharon Tate is stunning.

And I'm a fan of movies of that type. Others are The Best of Everything and Peyton Place.

I would describe them of movies that came out in the post-war period, and were aimed at young women who longed to go to the big city and live the life of an independent American female.

They were (in my view) actually warning parables, mid-century versions of the "penny dreadfuls" of one hundred years before.

4 posted on 08/03/2019 8:16:18 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Deaf Smith

You see them all the time you just don’t know it

They’re currently ballet flats. Shoes with no heel. Not running shoes. Black or brown leather flats

You don’t go around in the New England snow wearing them. boots. They can be feminine boots

But a film loses credibility when starlets have their ankles exposed to snow. No woman would do it in reality


5 posted on 08/03/2019 8:21:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Like yutes wearing flip flops in the cold & rain?


6 posted on 08/03/2019 8:25:34 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith

A flat pump, without a heel.


7 posted on 08/03/2019 8:26:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!)
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To: BunnySlippers
You are making it complicated.

Pump?

I am male. I know of boots & tennis shoes & cleats.

8 posted on 08/03/2019 8:31:08 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith

A plain shoe, no heel, no frills


9 posted on 08/03/2019 8:35:22 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!)
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To: Deaf Smith

“Like yutes wearing flip flops in the cold & rain?”

LOL. Kinda. More like guys building a Trojan horse in the woods using chainsaws in the Middle Ages looking for the Holy Grail


10 posted on 08/03/2019 8:38:14 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
Well DUH!

Of course she's wearing flats in the snow.

She'd look pretty silly wearing heels!

11 posted on 08/03/2019 8:47:16 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: Rummyfan
Oh, and Ginger Rogers was a much better dancer than Fred Astaire.

She did everything he did.

Backwards.

In heels!

12 posted on 08/03/2019 8:49:17 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: Rummyfan

I had to do a double take because it seemed impossible that Mark Steyn would have a soft spot for VOTD. It made sense once I saw it was written by Kathy Shaidle, whoever she is.

I’ve seen the movie several times and it’s such an entertaining train wreck I can’t look away. It’s high camp because it takes itself so seriously. And I’ll watch it again the next time it pops up on Turner Classic Movies.


13 posted on 08/03/2019 8:50:41 PM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: null and void

Lol. Steyn means as opposed to boots


14 posted on 08/03/2019 8:51:54 PM PDT by stanne
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15 posted on 08/03/2019 8:54:39 PM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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16 posted on 08/03/2019 8:56:36 PM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: Steely Tom

Eh, if you want to watch Sharon Tate watch the Matt Helm movie The Wrecking Crew, it’s silly and easier to get through.


17 posted on 08/03/2019 8:57:26 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

Loved reading the Matt Helm books. The movies made from them were like satire...hated them. They ridiculed/trivalized my man Matt.


18 posted on 08/03/2019 9:04:54 PM PDT by WHATNEXT?
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To: WHATNEXT?

Once Bond was popular there just wasn’t room for another serious spy in the movies, I think that’s why they went the parody route with Dean Martin and the Flint movies with James Coburn.


19 posted on 08/03/2019 9:14:35 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: stanne

Yeah, but that isn’t any where near as funny...


20 posted on 08/03/2019 9:19:11 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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